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Your veterinarian is absolutely right about needing to pay attention to the carbohydrate intake on donkeys, as they are so much more efficient than horse in extracting nutrients from feeds. As with any equid that is not keeping adequate weight you always want to check the condition of their teeth very carefully, even including a radiograph in older animals. We recently had one with a broken tooth root but looked normal on a regular oral exam. Parasites should also be considered, especially if pasture is available even part of the year. Assuming these are not problems, older animals can need extra nutrition. We just use Purina Equine Senior. One very old donkey we have gets a ½ cup three times a day with two tablespoons of flax meal. She does fine even though all her cheek teeth are expired. She also gets hay and straw with the other donkeys, so we include some psyllium with her Senior in the form of a moist mash. This lubricates her intestines and prevents impactions from the roughage. We use this approach and recommend it to donkeys with missing or expired teeth. Feeding some carrot slices with cucumber, celery, beet greens (not the whole beet), and chard increases their intake and they really like it. You can feed a cup or two of that mix without being concerned about excessive sugar or starches.
I hate to say this, but you probably would be best cutting the Red Maple down. I saw some really bad cases of Red Maple toxicity when I was in Tennessee. The trouble is that the dry leaves are the ones that are toxic and it would not take many to kill a mini. You would need to be scrupulous about making sure any dry leaves were cleaned up and could not blow into the donkey's pen. Minis particularly are a bit food obsessive and will chew on anything. Tree removal would be safest.
You need to have your veterinarian back out to examine your donkey. Cushing's disease is bad enough metabolically, but it is associated with other conditions that may make a donkey depressed such as infections of their gums or teeth, abscesses, laminitis, and liver disease. All these are serious and should be investigated and either ruled out or treated in a donkey with Cushing's. Another possibility is that you donkey did not like the taste of the Pergolide and stopped eating as a result. Certain donkeys will do this with medications. The problem is that when donkeys stop eating their fat tissue can release fatty acids into the blood stream which will cause symptoms like you are seeing. They can also seriously damage their liver. A blood triglyceride test can tell you if this has happened and should be done right away. The solution is to give glucose IV and provide nutritious feed right away. In some cases, this has to be administered as a gruel by nasogastric tube. Actual toxicity from Perolide is very rare and requires a large overdose. This is a serious situation and having your veterinarian out right away is the best thing to do.
Thank you for the thoughtful response and guidance! It’s reassuring to hear that our approach aligns with sound donkey care principles. I’ll explore using a senior balancer with trace supplements and consider a mixed diet of hay, straw, and fresh “salad” for variety and balance. Monitoring their weight and growth carefully, especially with the challenges of Ohio’s climate and pasture variability, is excellent advice. I’ll also check out the resources from The Donkey Sanctuary and look into the Donkey Welfare Symposium—it sounds like a valuable event. Thank you for pointing us in the right direction!
Reese, foxtails are not toxic in any way. They can leave their awns in an animal's eye, but this only happens when they are really deep and thick. If this was a concern you could mow the pasture once. Donkeys can eat foxtails, thistles, cactus, and most other plants just fine. The toxic ones are the ornamentals like Oleander, which is extremely toxic. It should not be found in a high desert pasture. As with most donkey nutrition issues is the fact that donkeys are extremely efficient, and if there are a lot of plants of any kind donkeys will tend to get fat on them. I have seen this in dry native pasture in the Sierra Foothills in California. So I would just make sure that they are not gaining weight. Again, mowing to decrease biomass will help with this.
As far as weaning from timothy to straw, there is no real problem as far as digestive or metabolic upset, since the straw is much higher if fiber and lower in digestible calories. However, your minis are likely to not like the straw very much at first and may not eat it. This is a problem because, depending on other factors, such as the mini's weight (are the fat?) a period of anorexia could trigger hyperlipemia, in which a mass of fat is released from the adipose tissue and can damage the liver and other organs. So, I would start adding the straw as 10 % of their diet and double the amount every week. Depending on their body condition you might also want to keep them on some level of hay permanently, maybe just ½ pound a day. You could also look for alternatives to timothy , like Teff, Orchard Grass, or Rye. Again, in small amounts. Do be sure that the straw you get does not have any significant amounts of the wheat heads left from combining (harvesting).
While the ideal of feeding barley straw is great, as you have found out, it is very hard to find the stuff in most parts of the USA. Wheat straw works just fine, given a couple of caveats. First, the straw should not contain a lot of actual wheat heads, because they contain exactly the high starch non-structural carbohydrates that you are trying to avoid by feeding straw. Fortunately, modern combines are pretty efficient at removing the grain part of the wheat plant at harvest, but it is still a good idea to check. If you find a wheat head in a half bale of straw, that isn't too bad. If you find several heads in each flake, that is a problem, and that straw should not be fed to donkeys. It is also undesirable to have a lot of dirt clods in the straw. This happens when the field is rough and the cutting bar on the combine is set low to the ground. You can tell if a bale has a lot of dirt in it because they bales will be much heavier. A three-twine straw bale should not weigh 100 lbs. as you would expect with hay. Finally, you want to get long stem bedding straw. Some straw is cut so that the stems are short, or it is chopped, making it more digestible for cows. This "feed straw" is an inexpensive diet for cows that are not currently being milked, do not have a calf, or are in early stages of gestation. The longer stemmed bedding straw gives the donkey more to do, because it requires more chewing, and it has fewer digestible calories. For this reason, the Standee chicken bedding, even though it is made of straw, would not be a good feed for you donkey. It certainly is not going to make your donkey sick, but it will tend to make it too fat. Also, I suspect that it is a lot more expensive than buying straw in a standard bale. It does depend on what part of the country you are in, but you can generally find bedding straw easily by going to a feed supplier that services racetracks or county fairs. Bedding straw is universally used to bed racehorses and show livestock. The supplier may tell you that this straw is not for feeding, but that is because they don't feed donkeys, and don' know. I hope this is helpful.
Your gelded jack may just have the genetics to have an "angular" body. Some donkeys tend to have a thin "top line" and a larger abdomen, like a dairy cow. So, this may not be that abnormal, and you are right to slow his feed intake when you noticed that he was building a fat pad on the top of his neck. Donkeys tend to store fat in a lot of parts of their body, but the top of the neck is one of the first and most prominent. It is like a camel's hump (also a fat deposit). There is nothing wrong with being able to see his ribs. In fact, a donkey (or a horse) in ideal weight you might expect to at least be able to feel the ribs. Looking at your donkey's diet I would consider the quality of the hay. It should be mold free and not have a lot of grain or legume (clover or alfalfa) in it. The diet should also include trace minerals like zinc, copper, and manganese, and not too much iron. The iron is needed but too much of it will decrease the absorption of other minerals. There are a number of trace minerals and "ration balancers' on the market. They are all pretty similar. To get your donkey to eat their mineral supplement, you can mix it with some tasty vegetables. We use carrots and add chard, celery, or cucumbers (in season). These are mostly fiber and water, so they don't add a lot of calories. It would also be a good idea to have his manure checked for parasites. Even though you are deworming frequently, don't assume that you have controlled parasites. They can be really sneaky. So , it is good to check.
Thank you for sharing these insights! It’s clear that transitioning to a more appropriate diet is critical for our donkeys' long-term health. I’ll focus on a coarse grass and straw diet, aiming for 1.5-3% of body weight, while carefully monitoring their weight with a tape and tracking weekly progress. Including a mineral supplement mixed with a low-sugar treat and enriching their environment with grooming, walks, and safe chewables sounds like an excellent plan. I’ll consult The Donkey Sanctuary resources for further guidance and appreciate the tip on using wheat straw. Your detailed advice is incredibly helpful!
It is hard to tell from your description what may be going on with your donkey. However, this is serious just based on the fact that treatment for lice is not effective. You need to get your donkey evaluated by a veterinarian. The possible problems could be as simple as bad teeth or as serious as cancer. Animals that become heavily infested with skin parasites like lice and mites usually have another underlying problem. If you can send me your location, the age of the donkey, how long you have had it, what you are feeding, and what treatments have been done, I may be able to help you or at least refer you to somebody who can.
I imagine if they were on a 1.5 acre lot with 19 horses (maybe mules?) they would be traumatized. So, donkeys being individuals it may take a while for them to be more "donkey like". I would cut out the sweet feed completely right now. There is no advantage to continuing to feed it and it is making them fat, which will be hard to treat after a while. Even free choice timothy/orchard grass is likely to lead to obesity in a mini if they don't get much exercise. They will eventually get used to the straw, but that is going to require that they don't have a lot of other tastier things to eat. That isn't being mean, it is just good for their health. Minis especially are food motivated, and the need to have things to chew on. Brambles, berry bushes, thistles, and other weeds work great and The Donkey Sanctuary has good information on other plants that donkeys can munch on at https://www.thedonkeysanctuary.org.uk/for-owners/poisonous-plants-trees/safe-trees-for-donkeys
To keep our donkeys happy they get a "salad" of sliced carrots with their supplement in the afternoon, and we will replace some of the carrot with celery, chard, or cucumber depending on the season. Bananas might be fed as a special treat, but they are very high in soluble starch and sugar, so I would be very careful about that. I think you are going at this the right way in general. I would just give it time, as it can take a traumatized donkey a long time to adjust to a better life.
It is hard to say exactly how to approach this without knowing which minerals (metals) are high in their diet. Generally, this is either due to high concentrations in the volcanic soil or because there are local plants that preferentially concentrate certain minerals OR a combination of both. If the problem is high iron content this tends to interfere with the uptake of other essential trace minerals like copper and zinc. Relative copper deficiency can cause coat color changes in cattle. So, this might be what is going on. You can have pasture plants and hay analyzed for minerals and I would imagine that diagnostic labs in Hawaii could do this, but if not they are certainly available on the mainland. I would start by having the feed analyzed and asking the state agriculture department if they are aware of particular plants that concentrate minerals. In the meantime, I would feed hay or straw that had a mineral analysis done previously. Don't feed alfalfa hay however, as it is way too high in digestible energy for donkeys, and they will rapidly get obese, which is hard to fix after it happens.
Yes your Poitu donkey could have a congenital hip problem causing muscle atrophy over her back and hips. However, more likely this is a result of the PPID, as animals with this endocrine problem tend to redistribute fat to their lower abdomen and lose subcutaneous fat on their backs, along with muscle. They do this irrespective of treatment which is mostly directed at preventing the most serious consequence of the disease, which is laminitis. It is really important that her teeth are in good shape too, as that will effect her ability to digest important nutrients. You could increase her protein intake by adding a small amount of equine senior to her diet. In addition, she should be getting a trace mineral supplement. Just a mineral block is not adequate in most cases. We use California Trace, but there are many on the market that are about the same thing.
The body form changes that you describe are typical for animals with Pituitary Adenomas (sometimes caused Cushing's disease in horses and donkeys). It is not clear from you question what type of hay you are feeding and how much, by weight. It would also be useful to know the condition of your donkey's teeth, as that can have a significant effect on an animal's ability to digest feed, especially roughage. Having a skilled dentist or a veterinarian examine his mouth would be a good idea. Donkeys with Cushing's are prone to dental problems and their teeth should be examined regularly. If the loss of mass over the hind quarters is muscle, some exercise would be very likely help, too.
I have attached a brief paper on refeeding starved or malnourished donkeys. As this states, the recommendations are based on what has worked in horses, simply because the research has not been done in donkeys. They make a good point in making sure that you have a veterinary examination, to be sure that there are no sever dental problems and, in this donkey's case, to insure that there are not musculoskeletal or neurologic problems that are keeping the donkey from standing. A blood test for triglycerides and liver enzymes would also be a good idea, because if these are high the donkey may need IV Dextrose to avoid life threatening hyperlipemia. As far as the actual feeding goes:
Clean water should be always available and if it is very cold where you are it should be slightly warmed. Trough heaters are available in cold climates.
Feed a soft, highly nutritious pelleted or chopped feed. This can be soaked in warm water to make it easier for an animal with oral problems to eat. This should be fed at 75% of what the feed sack recommends initially, gradually building to 100% over a week. The feedings should be divided into 5 or 6 feedings per day (every 4 hours or so). We have had very good results with Purina Equine Senior. The brand names used in this article are from the UK, and won't be familiar to your feed store.
Do not use very high molasses or straight grain feeds. They are too high in soluble carbohydrates and can cause digestive problems. We have used cooked oatmeal in 1 cup quantities for animals that are not eating anything at all.
Make good quality grass hay readily available at all times. Do not use alfalfa, except in small quantities. There is sufficient protein in the concentrated feed mentioned above.
Make sure that a recumbent animal is bedded in soft, dry bedding, and that if this donkey is not standing, that you move it from one side to the other to avoid the development of sores.
Gradually increase the feed intake, and start switching to primarily hay as the donkey starts gaining strength.
From the start a trace mineral supplement and salt should be available. There is a lot of misinformation around about feeding only white salt. This is none sense and having a mineral supplemented salt is fine. We use California Trace, but there are a variety of mineral supplements available that work just fine. If the hay and pellets used are of good quality, vitamin supplements are no necessary and don't give vitamin shots.
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The effects of vaccines are not dose related in the way that drugs like antibiotics or tranquilizers are. So, you need to expose the immune system to a certain level of foreign material (the stuff in the vaccine that stimulates an immune response and is called an "antigen"). Regardless of the size of the animal their immune system is going to need the same amount of antigen exposure to trigger a response and develop immunity. While splitting vaccines may work, you run the risk of not properly immunizing your minis to deadly diseases like tetanus and encephalitis in doing this. For this reason full amount of vaccines should always be used.
Some increase in neck crest fat is common in donkeys that have a Body Condition Score at or just above ideal weight, regardless of the scale that you are using. Donkeys store fat in this location preferentially and, great savers that they are, will enlarge their crests at the slightest opportunity. Having a Pituitary Adenoma ( referred to as "Cushing's Disease" in equids) makes this more likely as the Pergolide (Prascend) only helps with symptoms, but does not cure the disease. It will be difficult to keep him happy if he cannot eat any roughage, and it would be interesting to know what kind of tumor is preventing him from eating hay. This is because the simplest thing would be to dilute his diet with long stem straw. However, if the tumor cannot be treated this may not be an option. The grain will significantly contribute to his weight gain and unless donkeys are debilitated or lactating, we do not recommend feeding grain at all. Chopped roughage or high fiber pellets, soaked to make them easy to swallow, might be a solution. You can add Psyllium (about 1/3 cup daily) to "lubricate" swallowing and digestive passage in animals that cannot eat hay for some reason. Adding a mineral supplement, like California Trace, to the diet would balance all trace mineral requirements. Finally , for donkeys that get bored because their diet is consumed too fast, environmental enrichment by spreading out feeding stations that they have to travel to one after the other or just taking them for hikes really helps. The extra exercise would also help keep him from getting fat.
Zinc taken orally has a very low toxicity for all species. Unfortunately, the research to establish a "toxic dose" for donkeys has not been done. The main concerns excess Zinc in the diet are that, because it is a metallic mineral, like Copper, Iron, Manganese, and Cadmium, it can interfere with the essential bone growth trace mineral Copper and also Iron, which has a large number of functions in the body. We only cases where this caused a problem were in young, growing horses. So, in an old miniature donkey Zinc excess causing a Copper deficiency would be really unlikely. Actually, excess Iron in soils, and the forage plants that grow from them, are more likely to cause Zinc deficiency. This is why supplements, like California Trace, claim that their Zinc containing product is necessary to overcome the high Iron levels in many horse and donkey feeds. Further, the USDA regulates the amount of minerals that can be in a supplement. Commonly used ones, such as those you mentioned would have safe, often times low, levels of these trace minerals. I would not worry about them for your donkey.
with an obese mini you are indeed dealing with a difficult problem. So I consulted with the most direct and practical donkey manager that I know, my wife, Cindy Davis RVT. She is laser focused on good donkey nutrition and here is what she said:
My name is Cindy Davis. I am Eric Davis' wife and the person here who is in charge of our feeding program. We do not have a huge herd, but have cared for as many as 26 donkeys at a time and have treated no fewer than 13 (again not a huge number but enough to form an opinion) obese donkeys, 6 of whom were morbidly obese. I have both questions and information that I would like to ask you/share with you.
Firstly, I have used Thyro L quite successfully in 3 donkeys. These were the last three donkeys that I treated and I would not hesitate to use it again as I do believe that it works. I think your problem is related to the volume of feed your animal is getting.
Secondly, I am curious as to how much the hay you are feeding this donkey weighs? You will need a good scale to determine this, and frankly, you can not diet a donkey, particularly a mini donkey, without carefully weighing out their feed. I use a Salter model 235 6M (we weigh all of the hay we feed to the donkeys, ALL OF IT, three meals a day for 16 donkeys and a mini mule). I had tried several fishing scales but they broke frequently and were simply not accurate enough. The Salter is a workhorse, is well made and most importantly accurate!
Thirdly, you need to know what your donkey should weigh. Since we do not know your donkey I can guess, or you can consult your veterinarian. For the overweight miniature donkeys I have treated (total of 5) I would use 300 to 350 pounds as my ideal body weight (again, check with your veterinarian).
An equid on a diet should be fed 1% of its ideal body weight in dry matter (many donkeys meet their caloric needs, even when only eating straw, at 1.3% of their body weight, so you have no chance changing a morbidly obese mini donkey's weight if you feed more than 1%). This means that a donkey on a weight loss regimen of this ideal weight should get a total of 3 to 3.5 pounds of total feed per day.
DO NOT CHANGE THE DIET OVERNIGHT. I would reduce the amount of hay in a way that it took two weeks to get to a reasonable amount. I currently feed two miniature donkeys. They each receive roughly a half a pound of hay a day. The hay is shaken to remove as much higher calorie seed as we can. Even at this level with wheat straw in their diet they are slightly heavy.
None of the obese donkeys I have fed have been candidates for free feeding straw. There is always some grain in the straw and the more of it you feed, the greater the chance that they are simply foraging for the grain and other higher calorie tidbits they can find in it and leaving the stems behind. Even the straw we feed to our main herd is titrated. We feed them just enough that there is a light layer of straw on the ground below the feeders to minimize waste. I currently feed two miniature donkeys.
My recommendation for helping your donkey become its best self would be to (assuming that she should weigh 350 pounds again, consult your vet). Give this plan at least two months before you decide if it is working.
Transition to this diet over a two week period.
1. Put Martha back on Thyro-L
2. Weigh everything!
3. Feed 1/2 pound of hay a day mixed into 3 pounds of straw a day, fed in a medium hole (1 1/4 inch holes) hay net to slow eating down.
4. Discontinue feeding beet pulp.
5. Discontinue yeast extract. Donkeys have very low dietary protein needs and these can be met by straw, even if they are not getting any hay.
5. Feed a one ounce scoop of either flax meal or chia seeds but discontinue one or the other. (if no weight loss is seen after two months, discontinue the flax meal and see if that makes a difference).
6. Shake the straw to remove any grain that might be present.
7. If Martha has access to any grass, discontinue it immediately.
Reevaluate diet in two months. Please let us know how this goes,
The only things that I would add are:
There is no advantage to giving thyroid hormones by injection and you run the risk of negatively effecting the normal diurnal hormone rhythms. There is no research on the safety of injectable Thryo L in donkeys.
Since fat deposition is affected by "calories in vs. calories out", putting your mini on an exercise regimen would also help. This can be done in a variety of ways including walking or hiking with your donkey, or making an exercise trail that encourages them to walk some distance for food and water.
While it is difficult to make recommendations on the nutritive value of a hay without having specific data on the forage being considered. Besides things like plant species, there are also considerations such as the maturity of the crop when harvested (more mature means higher fiber and less digestible calories), the way it is dried (incomplete curing and raking can result in the growth of molds that decrease nutrition), and the type of packaging (large round bales tend to have lower quality than square bales). However, Bermuda (Tifton) and Jigg hays are pretty similar, with Jigg having somewhat more digestible energy and protein. Paradoxically, what you are looking for is LOWER digestibility and LOWER protein when feeding donkeys because they are SO MUCH more efficient in digesting forage than horses. As a result, many hays that are grown and marketed for horses cause donkeys to get fat and develop metabolic problems. At least in California, where weather conditions and land prices tend to result in really high quality hay production, we find that it is difficult to keep donkeys in good body condition without feeding at least half of the forage ration in wheat straw. We would use barley straw if we could get it, but is not commonly grown in this state. This is NOT Wheat or Barley HAY. You don't want that, because the grain in it is too rich for donkeys. You want the stuff that they use for bedding horses. Basically, regardless of which hay you choose, look for forage that is well cured and contains no mold or dust, and is high in fiber and low in digestible energy. Tifton or Jigg could fulfill either these requirements, but look for higher fiber and lower protein
In Mexico donkeys live on dried corn stalks. The only problem is how much actual corn grain is left in the bales with the dried stalks. It would be necessary to scrupulously pick out any before feeding it to your donkey, especially if he is foundered. Also, although corn stalks generally have lower digestible energy than most hays, they do have more calories than straw. So , you would have to remain vigilant that you do not overfeed your donkey, again, because of the chronic laminitis. Another option would be to feed wheat straw, which is available in most parts of the country and usually half the price of hay. You want the long stem stuff that they use for bedding for horses. Donkeys do well on a diet of straw, with a little hay, and appropriate trace mineral supplements. I do not know what part of the country your are in, but if baled corn stalks are available, straw probably is too. Barley straw is the best, but rare in most areas. So we have used wheat straw for years and it works fine.
I am not surprised that your donkeys are eating grain out of cow feces. They have an innate drive to find and utilize every scrap of food that they possibly can AND use it extremely efficiently. This comes from their evolving in an extremely arid desert environment. The entire history of the human-donkey relationship is one of their serving us in the most difficult of environments. So, when they are exposed to actual pasture, even if the grass is dormant, they gain weight, sometimes dangerously, with feed on which cattle and horses could not survive. As a result, they really should not be pastured in North America with production animals like cattle and sheep. Livestock management is designed for growth and production. Under this level of calorie and protein intake, donkeys are going to gain weight and it will be hard to get them to a healthy body condition and prevent laminitis. The exception would be animals grazing in the desert southwest. So, if at all possible, don't pasture your donkeys with cattle, especially ones who are eating any grain.
I suppose that Purina Equine Senior does have some sugar in it, as most pellets are held together by molasses. However, if judicitiously fed this should not be a problem. We are feeding in cup quantities, mixed with flax seed, and some vegetables (carrots, chard, and cucumber). Adding corn oil would add digestible calories, and can be an effective way of improving weight gain. If you wanted to do that I would start by adding very small amounts (teaspoon) to a mash containing the above. You might build up to tablespoon over a few weeks. Herbivore digestive tracks can handle fats (lipids in the oil) but their microbiome needs time to acclimate.
I can see that this would be confusing. Thank you for being concerned and addressing this. Really, the best way to approach buying hay is to have it analyzed. Most producers that sell to dairies already do this. I have attached a short article that explains a lot of this and also has some recommendations on the level things like "crude protein" and various measurements of fiber that can be used to differentiate hays. The problem is that hay digestibility is dependent on the way it was grown, how it was harvested, and the stage of growth at which it was harvested. So you might get hay that has both grass and alfalfa in it, that has a similar sugar content than Timothy or other grass hay. I would say that having any alfalfa in the hay is undesirable, not because it is toxic in some way , but because it provides too many digestible calories, regardless of the growth stage. As you will see in this article, it also provides donkeys with more protein than it does for horses. That is because a lot of the "crude protein" in alfalfa is "non-protein nitrogen" which donkeys and ruminants can utilize, and horses cannot. Unless the donkey has a high protein requirement (a nursing jennet or a donkey that is working very hard) excess protein goes into energy metabolism, providing calories. I hope that isn't too confusing, and I can explain in more detail, but it will take a longer post. As mentioned in the article, a good solution is straw, based on a lot of research. I am in California, and barley straw is vary hard to come by. So we use wheat straw which works fine. It is important to differentiate good "bedding straw" from "feed straw". The former is used for bedding stalls, usually at the racetrack, and has long stems and no grain, giving a donkey something to munch while not providing a lot of calories. The latter is used as a cheap source of forage for non-producing cows and has too many digestible nutrients for donkeys. We feed mostly straw with about 1.5% of body weight( that's 3lbs on a 250 lb. small standard donkey) of pasture or orchard grass hay divided into three feedings through the day. Occasionally, one will come along that needs a little more hay, and we separate them out and feed them a little more, monitoring their weight with a weight tape. We do feed a trace mineral supplement, which we mix with a handful of shredded carrots and a tablespoon of Equine Senior make it palatable. This also makes a nice treat for which the donkeys line up in the evening. I hope this is helpful. Basically, you need some straw.
Yes, they aren't thrilled about eating straw until they get used to it. One thing that you can do with the short straw is to thresh it. Basically this involves running it through a screen (I made one out of expanded metal with 1"x1/2" holes). You make a box with the screen on the bottom and scrub the straw on screen, then feed what doesn't go through the screen. This gets any of the grain out of the straw, which is what you are most worried about. It is actually how a grain combine works, but there you want the stuff that goes through. We've used this and have been able to use the shorter stemmed straw without problems.
I also don't know about Canary Grass hay as a feed for donkeys, but would be concerned about potential toxicities as a result of concentration of Selenium and Tryptamine alkaloids in the plants under certain conditions. Canary grass is usually regarded as a weed. Oat or rye straw would provide more digestible calories than barley straw, but , as long as the plant has been combined and the grains removed they could be a solution. The simplest would be to just use wheat straw, which is commonly used as horse or livestock bedding. That is what we feed and makes up most of our donkey's diets. We also feed a trace mineral supplement, which we mix with a handful of shredded carrots and a teaspoon of flax. We do mix pasture grass or teff hay with the straw, but weigh it when feeding donkeys in need of weight loss. A standard donkey gets 1 lb. 4 oz. of hay and about 2 lbs. of wheat straw. With exercise and proper hoof care, donkeys will lose weight on this feed. You are always going to have trouble, as far north as Minnesota, keeping donkeys at an ideal body condition.
This does sound like a complex case, and there may be more than one process involved. It would be helpful to know what the donkeys are eating and their body condition. Donkeys living in areas of higher rainfall, such as the Willamette valley, will be exposed to levels of moisture that their skin and hooves are not adapted to, and, if on pasture, are likely to be overweight. It is not that donkeys can't live there, but it does take extra effort to keep them healthy. The history and pattern of hair loss does suggest several possible causes, which you are absolutely right in wanting to get a complete diagnosis. First, I would be sure that the lice problem has been solved. Damalinia equi, the common louse of donkeys are very small and one needs to carefully comb through the hair on the sides of the neck and in the mane to find them. They can also be resistant to treatment. We have used Neem oil, Ivermectin, Sevin Powder, and Equispot in rotation, as one treatment is not always successful. Second, a bacterium Dermatophilus, can cause crusty skin lesions, which can become itchy. Skin scrapings will pick up mites, which are very rare in donkeys in the USA, but you would need to do a test on the scabs from the scrapings, called a "gram stain" to detect Dermatophilus. A skin biopsy, where not only the surface, but deeper layers, are accessed. This can be looked at after staining and fixing in a histopathology laboratory, and , if taken fresh, can also be cultured to see if bacteria grow. Dermatophilus will respond to antiseptic baths, including vinegar, and also antibiotics like penicillin. Since this seems a long standing and frustrating problem it would be a good idea to invest in a biopsy. The veterinarian should sample several different lesions on an affected animal and not have the skin scrubbed ahead of time. The crusts on the skin may be important to the diagnosis. The little hole left in the skin from a biopsy can be cleaned up after the biopsy is removed. Sometimes this procedure requires a suture to close the hole, sometimes not. Donkeys don't mind it because the veterinarian puts lidocaine in the skin to be biopsied. Another reason to do a biopsy for both histopathology and culture, is that this may be an allergy that is driven by one of a host of things. You mentioned insects, but molds, plant mites (which don't infect the donkey skin) but can be a cause of allergy. A biopsy would show the pathologist if the lesions were primary inflammation, allergy, or the result of a fungus or bacteria. The donkey that has the ventral edema and weakness, could have developed a secondary infection. One possible culprit is Corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis, which can get into hairless or ulcerated skin patches, usually on the underside of donkeys and horses. There are other organisms like Actinobacillus that can do the same thing. Identifying the cause is important, but the results will dictate what control measures work best. Finally, I need to point out that donkeys seem to be more prone to skin problems of all kinds, than horses. Because they often start as allergies or something as common as Dermatophilus, they don't get recognized and diagnosed until other bacteria or a more severe inflammatory process takes over, causing ulcerations and hair loss over a large area. This could result if, at sometime in the past, fly bites triggered inflammation, which then became secondarily infected, causing a circular feedback loop of between hypersensitivity and microbes that kept the condition going , even though fly season was over. I would start with very carefully ensuring that there are no lice, and then go to a biopsy, on two or 3 of the donkeys, recognizing that diagnosis and finding a successful treatment may still be a long road. I am glad to consult with you or your veterinarian on this situation. Also, we have a pathologist here at UCD, who specializes in horse, donkey, and mule skin problems, and I would be glad to ask her or send her biopsy samples if that is necessary.
You should absolutely get some wheat straw and use that to give them more to chew on. Further, I am very impressed by your attentiveness to weighing your donkey's diets and assessing their body condition. I SO wish more donkey owners would do this...THANK YOU! Yes, donkeys are just way too efficient for most feed stuffs available in this country. This is especially true in California/Nevada/Arizona area, which has an ideal hay growing climate, and very skilled forage farmers, who produce an excellent product. In much of the world, donkeys live on crop waste, that we would consider trash, and they do a lot of hard work, while retaining an excellent body condition. Straw is the best solution. It is important to examine the straw to be sure there has not been a lot of grain left in it, and that it is 'long stem' and designed for bedding. I say this because we recently had a misunderstanding with the guy that we buy our hay and straw from. The straw he delivered was generally sold for feeding cows, and the stems were short and more digestible than what we wanted. To get around this, we have had to "thresh" the straw to get the small particles and remaining grain out. This does work but it is labor intensive. Using good straw you could cut the hay intake in half, depending on your donkey's individual metabolism. Summary: you are on the right track and I wish you good luck with your donkeys.
This is certainly a serious situation. My initial impression is that he may be hyperlipemic, a condition that is common in miniature donkeys. While they apparently did a complete blood count (CBC) on him at the veterinary hospital, it would be more important to know his liver enzyme values and the triglyceride level in his blood. Chemistry panels made for horses often do not test for triglycerides, which are very important in donkeys. I do not know what part of the country you are in or anything about his diet previous to getting sick. Is there a problem with selenium deficiency in the area? The veterinarian or county agricultural office should know this. I am sorry to not be more help.
Thank you for your detailed description of your donkey's diet. That is really helpful. I would not worry about the oats that much, as that is a pretty small quantity. However, Triticale, which is a hybrid of wheat and rye may be adding a significant amount of calories to his diet, depending on how much grain is in the hay. If he has gained some weight, but just has some ribs showing, I would back off on his caloric intake a bit. Maybe just Bermuda or other non-grain grass hay, and rely on the alfalfa/grass pellets to proved adequate protein for development. I would keep an eye on his joints, because mammoths can have problems with bone formation if they are well fed and grow too fast, with some becoming quite lame. If you see anything that looks like joint swelling or soreness, having his knees or other joints that appear enlarged radiographed (x-rayed) would be a good idea.
You do need to be a little careful with donkeys, especially minis on any kind of pasture. If it is improved and irrigated, most pastures tend to be too high in soluble carbohydrates (sugars and starches) for donkeys. They tend to get fat rapidly, and even founder. This could be causing the diarrhea along with the increased water intake that results from pasture consumption. Additionally, spring exposure to pasture will cause encysted cyathostomes (common intestinal worm called "small stongyles") to break out of the cysts in the gut mucosa, where they have been living over the winter. This can also cause diarrhea. So it may be worthwhile considering your parasite control, measures and having a fecal egg count done. Actually, donkeys do better on pastures that are either dry and not growing, or contain low digestible energy grasses. We would also recommend that minis be provided with straw (not hay) while they are on pasture, to give them something "low calorie" to fill up on, and prevent over consumption of the excessively nutritions pasture plants
There are a number of things that I would look at in an older, lethargic donkey. First, I would repeat the blood count, as those are just a snapshot of the cell types and numbers present in the moment the sample was taken. If he has a "toxic line" his neutrophil count could be going down, which happens with endotoxemia. How elevated are the lymphoctyes? That could mean several things, depending on the actual levels. Then, were clinical chemistries measured? Knowing the blood protein, fibrinogen, triglyceride, and serum enzyme levels would be really important. In an older donkey I would definitely want to know the condition of his teeth. While parasites are less likely, doing a fecal for worm ova would be a good idea, especially if he is anemic. To get him more nutrition, you might consider feeding him Equine Senior pellets made into a soften mash by mixing with warm water and adding some shredded carrots.
We have not fed rice straw to donkeys and most places in the world where rice is grown is not good donkey habitat. So there is not a lot of experience using rice straw as donkey roughage. However, the stem and leaves of the rice plant is very high in undigestible silica. The small amount of literature that I could find on rice straw for donkeys, says that they can eat it, if they are given other hay to increase the nutritive value of the whole diet. Also, rice straw, being extremely course and hard, would be less appetizing even for donkeys with good teeth. If provided to give the donkeys something to do it is probably okay. On the other hand, if it is a major part of the diet, there may be problems with malnutrition or intestinal impactions, because of rice straw's low digestibility.
Some mammoths can be pretty "angular" which means their pelvic bones appear prominent, with less subcutaneous fat over the rump. Some appearance of ribs may also be normal. However, if she is not eating well and looks really thing, there are some things that should be looked at. I would start with her teeth. They should be thoroughly examined by a veterinarian or equine dentist with experience with donkeys. It would also be worthwhile to do a blood chemistry panel and complete blood cell count to ensure that there is no evidence of kidney or liver problems, or a possible chronic infection. If all this is normal, she may just need a slightly higher calorie and tastier diet. Assuming the hay is of good quality, adding a supplement feed would cause her to gain weight. We have used Purina Equine Senior at half the amount recommended for a horse of the same size. Adding some shredded carrots will also make it tastier. Finally, I would get a weight tape and check the weight gain every couple of weeks. The important thing is to not go "overboard" and cause your donkey to become too fat.
Parts of oak trees, primarily the buds that grow from acorns, can be toxic to herbivores of all species. They contain tannins, which if eaten in large quantity, can damage the kidneys. The green husks of acorns have also been reported to be toxic. However, the general recommendation is to not remove oak trees from pastures, but to trim the branches above the level that donkeys or horses can reach. Also, if acorns do sprout the buds should be weeded out of the pasture, if there is nothing else for the animals to eat. They generally do not like the taste of oak leaves, if there is alternative forage. The is one additional concern with donkeys: since acorns are basically seeds they are high in starches and other soluble carbohydrates, just like any grain. Since donkeys do not tolerate high digestible calorie diets well, excessive consumption of acorns could lead to obesity and laminitis. So having an oak tree in the pasture is not a huge problem, given that you make some allowances for the above, such as removing oak buds when they sprout, trimming low branches, and raking up the acorns in really heavy acorn production years. Oaks do respond to changes in temperature and moisture by producing more or less acorns every year.
It is most likely that the red that you are seeing is blood, as there is not another red discharge that a donkey might have. Also, with an intact male present the blood is probably coming from trauma to the vagina or vulva, which could be the result of breeding or bighting. Donkeys do not menstruate like humans or dogs, during the estrus cycle. If the jenny is otherwise doing okay, the trauma should heal without treatment. However, very occasionally, a serious vaginal or rectal tear can occur during breeding, and this situation points up two things that you need to address pretty much immediately. The jenny needs to get some training so that she can be caught, led, groomed, tied, and have her hooves trimmed. Otherwise, when you do have a more serious health situation, you will not be able to examine her and a veterinarian will not be able to treat her. Since she will likely live to 30 years old (some donkeys live to 40 or more) it is likely that this will be required at some point. This is crucial to your jenny's well being and an obligation that any owner takes on when the life and welfare of an animal is placed in their hands. Then, that jack (intact male) needs to be castrated. Otherwise, this will continue to happen and you will end up dealing with a jenny who is pregnant and all the complications that go along with that. In our society, intact males end up having a poor quality of life and contribute to the already major overpopulation of unwanted donkeys in the USA.
I guess the good news is that the wildest of donkeys are easy to gentle and train, given a plan and patience, and gelding jacks is a procedure that we do hundreds of times a year with minimal complications. Please start on this right away !
we use Purina Equine Senior diet, with hay and, yes, carrots for older underweight donkeys. I know you said he has good teeth but at 32 years old his premolars and molars must be very short (sometime called "expired"). This is going to decrease his ability to chew roughage, so going to a pelleted feed, where the particles in the feed are really small. It is a good idea to soak the pellets into a mash with hot water, to make it still easier to digest and avoid pellets getting impacted in her esophagus. A 30 some year old jennet that we have now, who weighs about 300 lbs, gets one coup of the Senior three times a day mixed, mixed with a tablespoon of Psyllium to lubricate her bowl. I don't know how big your jack is but this may give you some idea. However, even very old donkeys rarely lose weight severely unless they are starved, have expired teeth, or have some other health problem. In addition to the suggestions above, I would suggest doing some blood work on your jack to ensure there aren't other problems. A Complete Blood Count (CBC), Fibrinogen, and a "Chemistry Panel" including Triglyceride measurement. I would also repeat the parasite test, because the number of parasite eggs (ova) that a donkey will shed (and can be seen on the test) depends on the time of year. A negative fecal flotation on a single animal may or may not mean that there are no worms. Retesting, especially as the climate turns to spring, is a good idea. I am also assuming that this older jack has no joint, back, or jaw problems. Those could make it hard for him to get around and eat.
I am sorry for your loss and you are absolutely right, in that, donkeys grieve when they lose a friend. The poop eating is not necessarily a health problem, if your donkeys are on an adequate parasite control program. Donkeys are somewhat more susceptible to Parascaris equorum, a type of equine parasitic worm, than are horses. However, this organism is easily treated by virtually all available de-wormers. The best thing would be for her to develop a "buddy" relationship with another of your donkeys, which may happen in time. Unfortunately, there is no way to make it happen or predict. Another option would be to introduce another donkey of the same size and age to the herd, in hopes that they "pal up". In any event, don't worry about the poop eating (coprophagy). Donkeys will do that but it should not hurt her.
Obese donkeys should not be on grass, grazing muzzle or no. The problem is that in some studies done by Dr. Elizabeth Tadros, that were presented at the Donkey Welfare Symposium a couple of years ago, she demonstrated that donkeys quickly learn to get more and more food through the muzzle. Minis particularly are just have such minimal energy requirements that they will stay obese if they can get to any pasture at all. Unfortunately, you will need to go to a dry lot situation, with frequent feedings of small amounts of hay to make any progress. You will also have to make sure that there is a vitamin/mineral supplement, because your donkey will need those, even if it is eating less. Here is a good basic discussion of feeding an obese donkey for weight loss: https://www.thedonkeysanctuary.org.uk/sites/uk/files/2019-02/feeding-&-managing-the-overweight-donkey.pdf
FACTSHEET: Owners FACTSHEET Carin o h lde onkey FEEDING & MANAGING THE OVERWEIGHT DONKEY MANAGING WEIGHT LOSS
FACTSHEET Carin o h lde onkey FACTSHEET: Owners FEEDING & MANAGING THE OVERWEIGHT DONKEY Weight loss should be gradual and is achieved by choosing appropriate feeds that are low in energy
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This is written in the UK, where it rains all the time and grass is everywhere, and is designed with standard donkeys in mind. One has to be that much more careful with minis. It is a good idea to get a scale and actually weigh the amount that you are feeding. Don't go below 1.75% of body weight (your veterinarian can help you estimate your donkeys weight. If the feet have been attended to, exercise can also help. Go walking or hiking with your donkey at least several times a week. This does sound like a lot of work, but both you and your mini will be happier and healthier for it.
There are a lot of reasons why donkeys may have soft feces. While parasites are not impossible, they are an unlikely cause of wet stool unless they are really severe. If you are going to test for parasites, be sure and test all the donkeys, as if you have a parasite problem different donkeys can shed parasite ova at different rates. Other possible causes would include sand in their colon (your veterinarian can diagnose this by listening to the bowel with a stethoscope), chewing on leaves or bark in the pasture, or their estrus cycles if they are jennets. Some donkeys just get intermittent soft feces or "cow poop", for no apparent reason and are perfectly healthy.
On the overweight donkeys: feed a handful of alfalfa (literally) twice a day for a week, then once a day for another week, and that should be fine. Do make sure that their teeth are in good shape and the continue to eat the straw and Bermuda. Where you get into trouble is if they are really fat and stop eating, which can lead to hyperlipemia. It might be a good idea to do some blood work on them, with a clinical chemistry that includes a test for Triglycerides, which could warn you ahead of time if hyperlipemia is starting.
I am glad you have your donkey on a diet. It is really hard to keep donkeys trim and healthy given the hays that are available in this country. It will be difficult to get rid of the neck crest once it has formed, as that is a prime place for donkeys to store energy. However, getting an exercise program going will do the most to reduce its size. Hiking, jogging, or teaching your donkey how to pull a cart are all things that will not only help with the fat deposition, but make you and your donkey happier.
I would stay away from "calming aids" because: 1) they don't work and it is a waste of time and money and 2) if you go to actual sedatives like benzodiazepines, their long term side effects can be a concern. What I would do would be to do one or several of the following: build a larger, coyote proof pen, where they can be outside and look around but still with protection; adopt a larger neutered jack to put in with the older jenny and the foal, as coyotes would be very unlikely to approach such a "herd"; provide some environmental enrichment such as: hay stuffed balls (use grass hay or straw...NOT alfalfa), plastic or rubber toys, climbable hills or obstacles...all to keep them amused. You are quite right to recognize that donkeys are NOT horses. They will get obese in a fraction of what a horse of the same size would require for sustenance. Keep it to grass hays with slow non-structural carbohydrates and dilute that with straw (the same stuff they use for horse bedding) to decrease the caloric density and give them something to chew on. The foal should be getting some additional protein supplement, as he is growing. You will need to separate him from the jennet while he consumes this. Actually this is a good opportunity to do some training and socialization. Also, it is a really good idea to take both of them on walks or some other kind of controlled exercise. It will allow them to eat more, be healthier, and "see the country" which donkeys seem to enjoy.
Donkeys store fat above the nuchal ligament in the crest of their necks. That is the most likely cause of a swollen crest. If this is the case that donkey needs to eat less calories and get more exercise because it is getting obese. Once serious excess fat deposits set in, they are very hard to get rid of. Donkeys do fine on straw (just plain old wheat or barley straw) and a little grass hay , with maybe a mineral supplement. No alfalfa, no pellets, no grain! Also, since donkeys are individuals, just like people, one donkey in a herd will tend to accumulate more fat than another. However, both could benefit from a bit of dieting.
Mineral deficiencies are actually quite rare in any herbivores fed a decent quality roughage, except in some specific parts of the country where some trace elements have been leached from the soil by geography or irrigation. However, many owners (including us) do supplement, just in case. California Trace is a good, balanced mineral supplement that could be useful in practically all environments. We also use Himalayan salt licks. I used to thing they were kind of a "Yuppie Fad", but I have to admit that the donkeys really like them and they are pretty good at seeking out what they need. There is a lot of controversy on "loose" vs. "block". However, there is no research that proves one is better than the other and, given that deficiencies are pretty minor, it is very unlikely that it makes a difference. I would make sure the if these donkeys don't look good you also have several fecal analyses done for parasites, which are more likely to cause poor condition than mineral deficiencies. The problem with alfalfa hay is that it has way too many digestible calories for the donkey's hyper efficient digestive system. It would be like a human with a very efficient metabolism eating 10 hamburgers a day and not doing a great deal of physical labor. I hope your donkeys are not already obese. You can cut back on the alfalfa pretty rapidly as long as they are also getting a little grass hay. Two week transition is more than enough. We feed wheat straw and small amounts of grass hay, and our donkeys generally look great (except for a couple of food obsessed mini's who also require more exercise to not be too fat).
The biggest problem with donkeys on any kind of pasture is that they tend to get fat. Their ancestors evolved to thrive in places like the Horn of Africa, and wild ones are overpopulating Death Valley (a truly extreme environment). So I would not worry about feed deficiency and you should look out to make sure that the minis are not getting obese. Having a trace element salt lick might be a good idea. Of course, this all depends on the amount and type of pasture plants (grass vs clover) and what part of the country.
The small amount of sugar in syrup or apple sauce is not going to harm the effects of Remission, which is a microbial culture with trace elements and amino acids. If your veterinarian has found this product useful for laminitis that's fine, but it is difficult to see how it will have any effect on insulin resistance. Those Sacromyces bacteria, that survive the gastric acid and make it to the colon, will digest any sugars in the syrup or apple sauce. This is a difficult and complex problem that you are dealing with, but Remission appears safe as would small amounts of sugars that would improve the acceptability.
Donkeys have evolved to store any tiny amount of energy that they possibly can. They build up fat in their abdomen (where you can't see it), in their scrotum (in the case of jacks), and on the crest of their necks (which is what causes the collapsed crest). Basically, this donkey, either now or at some time in the past, has been eating too many calories and has built up adipose tissue (fat) around the nucheal ligament (in the crest of the neck). These calories could have come from grass (green or dry), hay, grain, or excessive treats. You have to remember that donkeys THRIVE in Death Valley, one of the sparsest and most extreme environments on the planet. A carrot and an apple by themselves would not be enough to cause the problem, but a generally high level of energy intake would.
If your donkey is already obese getting her to a normal weight is going to be difficult, just as is the case with humans. Besides diet restrictions, you need to look at exercise as part of your plan. This could be done by going on walks, running with your donkey, or teaching her to drive or pull logs. The trouble with giving any exposure to pasture is that this donkey can graze enough to gain weight in 45 minutes, much less being on pasture all night. Instead of a stall, your donkey would do better in a large dry lot (no grass), where it could be housed with a couple of its friends. Using portable panels, you can arrange it so that several donkeys can be fed individually at meal time. The obese donkey should be on a straw diet, supplemented with trace minerals and literally handfuls of hay. Feed at least 3 times a day, but just small quantities. The slimmer donkeys can eat separately, but in the same general paddock, where they can see each other, and then all the donkeys can be together in between meals. You can graze your pasture down with sheep or goats to get the grass short or non-existent, which will be better for all the donkeys. I do not know what part of the country you are in, but in the more humid northern, eastern, or south eastern states pastures are just too rich for donkeys. These animals have evolved to live in very arid and sparse conditions.
I would not worry about your donkey's wanting to chew on hair. I realize that it looks gross, but donkeys will chew on all sorts of stuff, and what we may consider dirty or bad, they may find interesting. If hew was missing anything in his diet, it might just be dry roughage, like dry hay or , better, straw. If most of his diet is grass and it tends to be green and wet he may crave some plain old course roughage, and it would be good for him. White line disease is more of a concern. Donkeys hooves just do not adapt to wet and humid conditions well. Anywhere east of the Mississippi or north of the Great Basin, they will have trouble. While we don't have to deal with that sort of rain and humidity in California, when it does rain here (which may never happen again.....) the clay soil mud can be very bad for horse and donkey hooves. To avoid this we use coarse wood chips, which are larger than bedding shavings, and dump them in the donkey yard to 4 inches deep. This keeps their hooves out of the mud and dry, and the chips contain tannins which further help prevent thrush and WLD. The best treatment for WLD is scrupulous trimming to remove any hoof wall where the white line separations are occurring. As long as the removed wall is not more than 1/3 the normal circumference of the hoof, they have plenty of weight bearing horn to walk on. The pockets need to be trimmed all the way back to where the white line is normal, and watched closely as the hoof wall goes back to avoid separations from developing again. A variety of medications can be used to treat the WLD areas and should be used, but unless the pockets are completely trimmed out you will not have much success in treating it.
Carrots or chard would be fine. They are tasty and may encourage eating. However, if it has been a week, it may be a good idea for your veterinarian to do a blood test called a CBC (Complete Blood Count) including testing for fibrinogen. If your jenny is getting "bute" or Banamine, she may have an infection but still not have a fever. A blood test called "clinical chemistry" , including triglycerides, would also be a good idea. She may have had a difficult birth but after 8 days she should be feeling better. Donkey specific normals for these tests are available at the Donkey Sanctuary website.
My suggestion would be to keep them on Prescend and monitor their diet. If you are feeding Coastal hay, my suggestion to not over feed carbohydrates especially water soluble (also called nonstructural carbohydrates) you can soak the hay and wash away part of the nonstructural or WS CHOs. If you use warm water you can wash away a larger amount that will help with sugar intake which should be low for donkeys with Cushing. You can also place the hay in slow feeders and or provide enrichment tools like hay balls and that will help keep the donkeys some what occupied and foraging for a longer period of time. The medication (Prescend) is necessary for helping regulate hormones associated with Cushings or phases of Equine Metabolic Syndrome especially PPID (pituitary pars intermediate dysfunction so removing the donkeys from this medication could be very detrimental to the donkeys health so I would highly suggest consulting with your attending veterinarian. As far as handing them off to PVDR that’s a question for for PVDR but would require them to then provide such care.
I believe that your donkey has "sarcoids" which are very different from "sarcomas". Sarcoids are tumors that are extremely common in donkeys and mules, and can be locally invasive (that is they can enlarge or spread in their immediate area), but they are not considered "malignant" (can spread around the body to many organs). Sarcomas are VERY rare, but if they do occur they are more difficult to treat. If there is any question the tumors should be biopsied, so you know exactly what you are dealing with. If these are sarcoids (by far the most likely situation) the only treatments that have been objectively proven to cure them is wide excision (which means surgical removal including at least 1 cm of normal looking skin around the tumor's base) and local injection of a chemotherapy drug called Cisplatin. Most surgeons use both at the same time and the Cisplatin can be either injected into the tumor area or placed as time release absorbable "beads". The chemo therapy is only local and does not have the side effects systemically that we normally think of with "chemo", but it often has to be repeated several times. If the sarcoid next to the eye will not allow wide excision, it could be just injected with Cisplatin. There is also another, less expensive, chemo agent, called 5 - fluorouracil (5-FU) which I have used successfully by local injection. This does require repeated injections, usually at weekly intervals. The dosages and protocols for these treatments are all available to your veterinarian in scientific publications. Various therapies that basically destroy tissue, such as cautery, cryosurgery (liquid nitrogen), or various caustic agents such as blood root extract (Xterra) will destroy sarcoid tissue, though they are less efficacious. However, these may be difficult to use close to the eye. We have had success with a technique in which a sarcoid is surgically removed, sliced, and the pieces frozen in liquid nitrogen for 10 minutes (to kill the cells and the virus that causes the tumor) and then implanted under the skin to stimulate the immune system to attack remaining sarcoid tissue in the body. It was described by a surgeon at UPenn's New Bolton Center and we have used it in Mexico and Nicaragua, where there were no chemo options, and the horses, donkeys, or mules had so many sarcoids that they could not be removed surgically (dozens sometime).
It is very hard to maintain proper weight on donkeys that are not living in the dry west and south west, with short annual grasses for forage. Besides looking at your jenny's abdomen , look at the crest of her neck and the fat pads to the side of her tail. These areas are good places to estimate actual fat accumulation. Sometimes abdominal "wideness" in a non-pregnant animal can be the result of aging. Donkeys get "saggy" as they age. However, you are quite right: muzzling the jennet or changing to a dry pasture or paddock will be necessary to prevent weight gain if there is enough spring grass. Something else to consider is the amount of exercise. Hiking, jogging, or working with your donkey can help.
While it is normal for older donkeys to lose muscle mass (boney and thin over legs and top line) and get a larger abdomen, there are some potential health problems that should be ruled out. Particularly in and older donkey teeth can be an issue, decreasing the ability of the donkey to convert feed energy and protein into body mass. So a good dental exam and treatment , if necessary, would be a good place to start. Also, donkeys seem to remain sensitive to internal parasites even in old age. Analyzing the feces for worm eggs should also be done and management changed if parasites are found. Finally, as donkeys age they can get endocrine problems similar to pituitary adenomas and Metabolic Syndrome in horses. There are blood tests that your veterinarian can do to identify these and treatments available. All of these conditions can re insidious and only make an animal look ill when they are quite advanced. So invetigating these possibilities now is a good idea.
If you are feeding alfalfa pellets, you are probably providing enough calcium and protein for lactation. You could supplement with a high quality protein like Calf Manna and a trace mineral with fat soluble vitamins (particularly vitamin E). I depends a bit on the quality of hay used to make the pellets. However, be careful to not feed excessive digestible energy (more than the recommended amount of alfalfa or any molasses) as it will tend to make the jennet obese.
I am not at PVDR, but to answer your question, generally, I would need to know if the weight problem is weight gain or weight loss. Donkeys, including mini's, are metabolically different than horses, with the tendency to become overweight very easily. This is because of various physical and behavioral adaptations that have stuck with donkeys from the time that they adapted to the very harsh environment of eastern Africa. Among these are a very effective chewing ability to grind even the coarsest feed into digestible particles, an extended gut transit time, a greater percentage of their body being digestive organs, and a metabolic condition referred to as "insulin resistance", which tends to make them store every morsel of energy that they consume. It is entirely possible that a miniature donkey, who is not getting a lot of exercise or not 'working' could gain a lot of weight on good quality coastal Bermuda grass, with no supplements added. We have found it hard to keep donkeys fit (BCS of 3 on a 1-5 scale, or between 4 and 6 on the 1-9 Hennecke scale) without feeding at least part of the diet as straw. Barley straw is preferred, but wheat straw (with NO grain in it) works and is often the only option available. Donkeys are individuals and the amount of hay vs. straw will vary depending on the donkey's feeding behavior and individual metabolism. We occasionally feed supplements to older donkeys or other who, for some reason, don't maintain healthy body weight on hay. What has worked the best is Equine Senior, fed at 1/3 the horse dose and softened with warm water for those with bad teeth. I would doubt that this would be necessary in a mini.
I would replace the small amount of grain with lettuce and carrot for a little extra treat. The grain may be low fat but there is a lot of soluble carbohydrate in all grains and donkeys just don't need that, unless they are being rehabilitated. There really are no supplements that will reduce the "pones " or fat deposits. The best approach is to decrease caloric intake and increase exercise. Walking/hiking is as good for donkeys as it is for humans. However, I would also like to point out that donkeys are the world champs at storing energy as fat. Even donkeys that are trim will retain fat deposits on their necks and rump, once they have developed. As far as the hoof issue: donkeys will develop a thickened layer of hoof wall at the toes that can separate and appear as an extra layer. The reason for this is unclear. There is virtually no research on it and, even experienced farriers, have various theories and approaches to treating it. My observation is that when this layer is rasped off and the hooves are carefully and regularly trimmed they can become normal. Some would recommend a trace mineral supplement like California Trace to improve hoof health and formation. There is no objective proof that these work but we are using CT on our donkeys.
One thing to consider when grazing your donkey is the time of day when you are allowing her to graze. You can reduce the amount of nonstructural carbohydrates (also referred to as water soluble carbohydrates) if you allow her to graze early in the morning until roughly 11 am. During the night plants are dormant and use their energy stores (sugars and starches). An overload of sugar or starch (NSC or water soluble carbohydrates) we believe can lead to inflammation in the laminae of the hoof. So, consider grazing time as one way to reduce her pasture intake. Any changes you make in her diet should ideally be done slowly over a period of time. You can also consider offering her slow feeder for hay if you are supplementing her diet with hay when she’s not on pasture. Another way to reduce NSC intake is by soaking your hay for at least 30 mins or up to 1 hour if using cold water, if hot you can go with 30 mins, then remove hay from the water and offer to your donkey. There’s a lot of wonderful enrichment feeders available as well. I know PVDR uses them for some of the mules. This will limit intake and also provide engagement for your donkey. Again, consider her diet and then making changes slowly to reduce sugar intake and allowing for time for adjustments. Another option is fencing off part of your pasture and making smaller lots for her to graze for the limited time. You can easily do this with a hot wire fence. I hope this helps but also consider working with your veterinarian on developing a diet, weigh her and take before and after photos of each side to monitor body condition scores.
As a rule giving a couple of days for adaptation to a feed change is a good idea. Something like mixing the wheat and barley straw half and half for 4-5 days before making a complete transition. However, if you needed to make the transition right away, this would be absolutely safe. The difference in straw is not that significant.
Assuming the pregnant jennet is otherwise healthy and has good teeth, a lot of special feed is not really necessary. Good quality grass hay (alfalfa is not necessary and can make donkeys excessively fat pretty quickly), a trace element supplement (we use California Trace, though there are lots of others), and maybe a highly digestible pellet, to add some protein, would be sufficient. An example would be Equine Senior, at half the horse dose. Again, a lot of starches and sugars (grain and molasses) is just going to make the jennet fat, and maybe cause laminitis. They just don't need that.
By far the simplest thing would be to feed both the donkey and the horse grass hay. While alfalfa is often fed to horses, it is too high in digestible energy and protein for most horses, unless they are young and growing, lactating, or in heavy work. If your horse needs some protein supplementation (the reason alfalfa is usually fed) a small amount of cubes or pellets in a bucket, away from the donkey would be a solution. Using a hay net will not keep the donkey from eating the alfalfa leaves that fall on the ground and, unless you hang it high enough that it will make the horses neck uncomfortable while eating, will not keep the donkey from reaching the alfalfa. I realize that quality, well cured grass hay may be hard to find in certain parts of the country, but investing in good, low soluble carbohydrate roughage would benefit both horse and donkey.
We have the best luck with feeding Purina Equine Senior at 1/2 the horse dose for weight and condition gain in donkeys. You might give the foal a little protein supplement, like Calf Manna. I would also have the manure tested for parasites and don't forget to comb the hair looking for lice. These sale yards are great places for parasite and disease transmission. I would also start their vaccinations: Tetanus, encephalitis, and equine influenza as soon as you can. We have been hearing about outbreaks of equine influenza in donkeys with a history of being rescued from kill yards. This disease causes an annoying cough in horses, but can cause severe respiratory disease, which can be fatal, in donkeys.
This is a serious situation that requires veterinary assistance. Without knowing things like how old the donkey is, previous diseases, diet, and vaccinations it is hard to make a diagnosis. I can direct you on how to make a sling to help your donkey stand if you email me, but that will only help temporarily without veterinary treatment.
This is both a taste and a behavior issue, with which many owners struggle. We can definitely relate....The approach that Cindy takes has been the most successful by far: Mix apple sauce and dark molasses 50:50 (like 2 oz of each), stir well or blender, then start by rubbing a little of the mixture on donkey's lips or gums with your finger, until they get the idea that it is yummy. Then get a catheter trip 35 or 60 ml syringe and put the some of the mix on the outside and use that to put solution on lips. You may have to get the donkey used to your holding something plastic in your hand, which can be done by holding the syringe while you are feeding and grooming. Start rubbing it on the neck and face, until they are not afraid. Always be careful to not jab thier gums or lips with then end of the syringe. This can be done by keeping the tip parallel to the gums and sliding it in after parting lips with your finger. Eventually you can start giving a few milliliters of the solution (like 5 or 10 ) into the donkey's mouth. You can also hold the syringe tip next to a piece of carrot, if that is the reward that they are used to, until they start associating the syringe with goodness. Only after they are really good about taking the syringe and solution do we mix the medication with the apple sauce/molasses. I don't know how much volume in involved in the Pergolide powder because I don't know the size of your donkey, but you can probably disguise it in 20 mls or so. We have used this with a variety of medications: NSAID's, antibiotics, and dewormer and it inevitably works well. It does take sometimes two weeks to get donkey trained, doing the training once a day or every other day. When it comes time to worm our donkeys, Cindy just goes out with syringes, they all line up without halters or any restraint and literally suck the medication out of the syringe. I know feeding medications is more convenient, but the accuracy of dosing is MUCH lower and generally recommend giving oral medications directly by syringe as part of daily feeding or grooming. Otherwise you really never know if you are getting the correct amount administered.
If the muscle loss in the hips is a result of nerve injury, feed will be unlikely to bring it back. Another issue in an old donkey like that is the condition of her teeth. At that stage of life they are often "expired" (no crown above the gum line). If that is the case she will need to eat processed feed like Equine Senior, which we have found will maintain weight in an older donkey, safely. Soaking the pellets in warm water and adding psyllium to it, makes the diet easier to eat and digest (no chewing required) and will lubricate the bowel to help prevent impaction from coarse roughage. You will still need to feed hay to give her something to do.
If this is actually sweet itch, the most important thing is to separate the donkey from the insects that are causing this hypersensitivity. This may mean putting a sheet or leggings on him depending on where the lesions are. In extreme cases putting the animal in a screened stall when insects are active may be necessary. Veterinarian can prescribe anti-inflammatory medications that can be given orally (antihistamines or prednisolone). We have had some luck in feeding flax seed to a mini with seasonal hypersensitivity. You do have to be careful to not feed too much as this supplement also contains a lot of calories. Donkeys can be trained to accept the administration of topical medications by associating them with carrot treats.
Yes, but in very little moderation. If you can get a mineral lick instead of loose minerals, that would be better for the donkey so they don't over do it.
Judging if a donkey is getting overly fat is difficult. Donkeys will often get an increase in their crest before fat is deposited anywhere else. I applaud your diligence in worrying about this, as many people don't until is has already become a problem. I would suggest a few things:
There is nothing wrong with substituting wheat straw for barley straw. Our donkeys main diet is wheat straw and they do fine. The get a very small amount of grass hay, and a evening carrot/chard/cucumber salad (okay...that's a little off the wall but they really like it). However, the hay and salad are literally handfuls, with most calories coming from the straw. This includes two mini's who are doing fine.
Increase exercise: which is good for everybody. If you donkeys do not have a large paddock to roam in, start hiking/running with them, depending on your own exercise regimen. Consider teaching your mini how to pull a cart, snig (drag logs through a course), or do obstacles. Using up some of that excess energy will help.
While there is little toxicity associated with thyroid supplementation, this should ONLY be considered as a VERY last resort. Thyroid hormones have multiple metabolic effects and you don't want to cause a problem in trying to solve something that can be addressed other ways.
One thing that comes to my mind, especially given his age would be Cushings. Cushings can cause muscle wasting (and therefore weight loss). Your veterinarian should be able to assist with making this diagnosis. A baseline ACTH level (from a blood sample) is one way to possibly make this diagnosis, but it can be difficult to interpret, especially this time of year. The other method is called a TRH response test (also run on blood, following an intravenous injection). Feel free to have your veterinarian contact me directly if he/she would like any further diagnostic guidance.
Great suggestion! I would also suggest checking his teeth and considering a dental exam. This could discourage the little guy from wanting to eat a dental disorder and cause him to loose weight. Other thoughts would be to do a fecal egg count and look at how often you are feeding, you may need to increase his diet and offer several small meals a day of his equine senior to meet his caloric needs but test for Cushing's' first because Equine Senior contains molasses and if he has Cushing's then you would need to consider a diet with less sugar- specifically nonstructural carbohydrate sugar and with Bermuda hay "if" he has Cushing's you can soak the hay in warm water to decrease NSC also known as water-soluble carbohydrates.
That is odd that the jennet voluntarily weaned her foal at 3 months. Was she in poor physical condition?
At 3 months of age the following are important:
He needs a higher protein intake because he is rapidly growing and developing. This would normally be provided by mother's milk but if there is no nursing, a milk based supplement is the next best thing. Land O Lakes, Purina, and several other companies make milk replacer pellets. The amount fed depends on which product is available to you , but they all have directions on the bag. Grain, by itself, is too low in protein and calcium to provide adequate nutrition. If he has not eaten a pelleted feed before it might take some time for him to get used to the supplement, but that's what he needs. The rest of the diet should consist of good quality forage (hay). Normally we would not recommend feeding alfalfa to donkeys but if half of his hay ration was alfalfa that would raise the protein and calcium intake too. The supplement should also contain fat soluble vitamins (E and A) as well as trace elements (Selenium, copper, Zinc).
Deworming is likely going to be important. It is always best to have a fecal analysis run as a base line to see if your worming program is working. If the foal is in poor condition or if the previous worming history is unknown, start by giving 1/2 dose of wormer every three days for 4 treatments. This will decrease the likelihood of killing too many of the large Parascaris equorum parasites too fast. Donkeys are sensitive to these and they are large enough to cause intestinal blockage if the foal is heavily infected and you kill them too fast. Ivermetin, Pyrantel Pamoate, or Fenbendazole are all appropriate. Again, doing a fecal analysis before and a week after worming would be ideal as it will identify the effectiveness of the treatment. There are problems with resistant parasites, but they only way to test that is to use a wormer and then check.
For psychologic development this foal needs a donkey "friend". An older gelding is often used for this purpose. Orphaned or early weaned foals who do not get this exposure and are just raised by humans never "learn to be a donkey". This gets expressed in undesirable behaviors as the animal gets older and can make them very difficult to socialize and train for interactions with humans.
Depending on the diet jennets can lose weight after foaling. She should certainly get a couple of years off, if for no better reason than that there are a great many donkeys in this country without homes and we try to discourage the production of more. He diet should still be primarily good quality hay and straw, but you might supplement her with a small amount of a highly digestible processed feed like Equine Senior. Some feel that adding California Trace mineral supplement will help with her feet. Jennets who have had multiple pregnancies will often have prominent hip bones (actually part of the pelvis).
I would agree with this feeding plan 100%. You can substitute wheat straw for barley straw, as it is easier to find in many parts of the USA. Of course, never feed wheat or barley HAY, as that contains the grain heads too and would be way to high calorie for donkeys. Beyond a proper diet, you also need to make sure that your donkey has environmental enrichment, which can take all sorts of forms, including going for hikes with your donkey . You should also work with picking up your donkeys hooves regularly, so that they can be handled by the farrier. In most situations in the USA, donkeys need to have their hooves trimmed about every two months. It is also important that donkeys hooves remain as dry as possible. They do not take moisture well, as they are adapted to arid conditions.
EMS and Equine Cushing's have many similar effects: laminitis, obesity, abnormal fat patterns. In fact EMS is sometimes referred to as "Peripheral Cushing's". As with many donkey related issues there has been relatively little research in metabolic disease and much of the testing and treatment recommendations are extrapolated from horses. Assuming that the test your veterinarian did was for pituitary hormones, it does sound like your donkey may be positive for Cushing's. In any event the management of the two conditions is similar. Have your hay tested for soluble or non-structural carbohydrates and try to find the lowest hay that you can. Putting straw (barley straw is best but you can use wheat straw) in a hay net for the donkey to chew on through the day gives them something to do, fills them up, and won't contribute to increased obesity. You may have to supplement with trace minerals and that can be done by top dressing a "salad" of vegetables like carrots, chard, or cucumbers (we grow Armenian cucumbers for our donkeys because of their high production). These are high fiber and high moisture so feeding a small amount everyday for supplementation won't cause weight gain. While any medication can have side effects, reported ones for pergolide, the treatment for Cushing's, has few complications that I know of, except that there is a fair amount of expense involved. X-rays of her hooves would be a good idea to look for evidence of laminitis and also to serve as a baseline if she was to show more lameness in the future. On the 4 year old: that is a significant titer (blood level) for EPM. However, there could be other things causing the stumbling in a large, young mammoth. Before I chalked it up to EPM, it would be necessary to do a thorough neurologic and lameness exam. Mammoths are prone to bone growth abnormalities referred to as "OCD". These can effect joints, but also the spinal chord, which would look very much like EPM.
Because he is young and because stumbling is a potential safety hazard for you it would be a good idea to consider taking him to an equine referral center and investing the money in x-rays and sampling CSF fluid (which is the definitive way of checking for EPM) . There are equine referral hospitals in both Albuquerque and Santa Fe. Treatment for EPM, especially in a mildly effected animal, is pretty successful and well tolerated. Your veterinarian could prescribe appropriate medications (Ponazuril or SulfaTrimethoprim) and you could look for improvement. However, having a more accurate diagnosis would avoid potentially wasting time trying to treat the wrong condition. We really do need more research in these conditions in donkeys.
Chronic colic can be difficult to sort out and diagnose. I doubt that this is diet related and I think that your current ration is much better than the previous one with grain and alfalfa. The approach should include examination of your donkey's teeth, a parasite exam of feces, considering sand or gravel accumulation in the large colon (this can be done by stethoscope, "panning" manure for mineral material, ultrasound, or radiographs), and a some blood work looking for chronic inflammation or metabolic problems. In some parts of the US feeding alfalfa is associated with the slow development of stones in the right dorsal colon (enteroliths) and your veterinarian would know if this is likely in your area. The exact symptoms shown during the episode are also important and may point to intestinal, gastric (ulcers), or other problems that cause unwillingness to eat, rolling, recumbency and other behaviors that are associated with abdominal pain. Examination and "work up" by a competent equine veterinarian would be a good idea, as is scrupulous record keeping. You did a good job of recording diet change, and it would be a good idea to include time of day, time fed, specific symptoms and when the resolved, and even stage of estrus (if this is a jennet). Sorry that there is not a simpler answer. I wish you luck and share your concern.
Sugar beets, depending on their degree of maturity (and therefor sugar content) could cause serious problems in a donkey. Though it is unlikely that just one would cause founder (laminitis) it is certainly possible. The other danger from sugar beets is choke. Large animals tend to bolt the tasty tubers and can get them stuck in their esophagus. Many years ago, when farms around Davis, California, raised a lot of sugar beets, they used to graze cattle on the leftovers after the beets had been topped and harvested. Some of my classmates had jobs "ridin' beets", in which they would ride through the fields looking for cattle choking on beet tops. They would open the animal and reach down their mouth and gullet to pull out pieces of beet that were stuck there. Carrots, celery, chard, or cucumbers are fine, but no beets.
There are a variety of treats given that the donkey is on a good diet, like yours is. Some trainers like just plain whole oats as a reward or treat. A few handfuls of a high fiber grain like that is okay, as a reward in training. I have found small pellets and oats a little clumsy to handle and we use just thin carrot slices. One can also use celery or cucumbers....or chard, depending on what you grow in your garden. We grow all these, feed a "salad" to all donkeys once a day (in addition to some hay and straw) and they do great. Some like carrots more than cucumber and visa versa. You just have to experiment.
I am pretty conservative about feed supplements for donkeys, or horses for that matter. I am fortunate in that I live in the Sacramento valley where, for many millennia, minerals have washed out of the mountains of a large geographic area in Northern California. So mineral and trace element deficiencies are rare. Up where I used to live, where that water started in those mountains, things like Selenium and Copper deficiencies were not unusual. I guess the point is: it depends. The quality of forage fed and where it is grown has a large effect on the need for mineral and vitamin supplementation. I know of a colleague who likes California Trace. It is not only a good source of trace elements (Selenium, Copper, Magnesium, Zinc) but also it has a good mix of sulfur amino acids which some research suggests are good for hoof quality. Vitamins, other than Vitamin E (can be deficient in poorly cured hay), are rarely necessary. Donkeys (and horses) make B vitamins and others in their colon. So spending money on these supplements is not a good investment, though more of them has no deleterious effect. Horse Guard is okay too, as long as it does not contain molasses or other highly digestible sugar calories. I couldn't find a feed analysis for Horse Guard.
My short answer is yes. I live in central NY where selenium deficient soils are a huge problem. That may not be the case in your location. However, donkeys do need other vitamins and minerals that are typically not present in sufficient quantities in most dry forages. Also, in my experience, even providing the salt blocks that contain selenium and other trace nutrients are not usually sufficient either. I find that the donkeys just don’t tend to lick them enough to consume adequate quantities. I would recommend feeding California Trace once daily at the dose provided on the label. It is a great way to be sure they are getting the essential micronutrients that they need and, if your donkeys are anything like mine, they will even think of it as a treat too and look forward to it each day.
We have fed Teff hay to donkeys with good results. It is always a good idea to have hay tested as it may vary in non-structural Carbohydrates, fiber, protein, and minerals depending on where it is grown and how it is cured.
It would be very hard to keep a donkey from getting fat in a place with as much rainfall and grass as NC. Remember these animals evolved to live in an extreme desert environment and are MUCH more efficient in digesting forage than horses. We just identified a 30+ year old donkey that had lived its entire life in Death Valley and was it good shape. That is a tough and efficient animal. It is really important that donkeys not be allowed to get fat, because when they do, it is difficult to get them to lose weight and they are at risk for metabolic diseases and laminitis. Recommendations:
Do not feed your donkey grain ever. It is unnecessary and has way too much digestible calories for a donkey.
IF the donkey is going to be on pasture it needs to be pasture that is as dry as possible. The high energy spring growth should be avoided. This can be done by strip grazing or chopping the grass really short. Muzzles are another option, as is dry lot, though donkeys like to get out in a pasture.
Do not feed the donkey with the horses because horse nutritional requirements are much different and horse feed and hay is just too rich.
Feed a high fiber, properly cured, grass hay or straw as the primary roughage. We feed our donkeys primarily straw with just a little rye grass hay here in California and they do great. The Donkey Sanctuary recommends feeding barley straw. Costal Bermuda, Orchard grass, and Teff hays are okay, but should be tested to make sure they are not too high in non-structural carbohydrates. Hays differ around the country so it is hard to make blanket recommendations. DO utilize advice from The Donkey Sanctuary, especially since they are in an environment that has similar rainfall characteristics to NC. Do NOT use advice on Face Book, unless the content is curated (such as the PVDR site), there are just too many pseudo-experts on social media.
Finally: make sure your donkey gets plenty of exercise. You can easily train them to drive or pack, and hiking or running with your donkey is one of my favorites.
First I would want to know: are you treating the PPID with Pergolide. We will have at talk on this topic at the DWS this year. With pituitary metabolic disease you are going to the a redistribution of fat to the ventral abdomen (which tends to occur in older donkeys either way). If diarrhea was an issue I would DEFINITELY have a veterinarian auscultate, ultrasound, and/or x-ray the abdomen looking for sand. Also, the teeth definitely need examination because PPID is associated with dental disease and the will affect feed conversion. I would not be in a great hurry to increase protein intake until these issues have been sorted out, as high levels of protein that are not used for muscle formation, which will only occur at a low level in an older donkey, will increase the nitrogen load on the old kidneys. As a feed in older donkeys, particularly if they have bad teeth is Purina's Equine Senior. We had a small standard donkey that was living entirely on Equine Senior at the rate of 9 cups a day. He really got no other feed. In an animal with some dental ability, no sand, and controlled PPID, one might start at 6 cups a day, but I would definitely measure the donkey with a weight tape regularly, to monitor weight game and avoid the development of obesity. Be realistic about 'building her topline'. Metabolic disease driven by a PPID will determine the donkey's body confirmation, no matter what.
All equines of all ages, but especially younger ones, will do a little "coprophagy" (eating manure). There is no evidence that this demonstrates a deficiency of any kind. My adult donkeys do it from time to time. It does not hurt them in any way and the only thing that I would worry about is that the donkey may be looking for more "environmental enrichment" (toys, logs to chew on, other donkeys to wrestle with, or some human interaction). You might try taking him for a walk daily or other activity. However, either way, don't worry about it.
A broken crest is not a health problem for a donkey, as long as it is no longer obese. This condition does not affect that animal's soundness in any way, just its looks.
It is EXTREMELY unlikely that a donkey eating good quality forage would need copper supplementation. Unless your particular part of the country has severely copper deficient soils and forage (local agricultural extension office could tell you this), do not worry about copper supplementation.
So it looks like the small amount of information available on the amount of time that donkeys spend 'down' suggests that it is something like 1.75% of their daily cycle. Some researchers are working on using some modern technology to measure this more accurately. I think the owner of this donkey should consider pain as a possible cause, even though it is eating etc. A symmetrical gait does not guarantee lack of pain. Veterinary examination and the phenylbutazone (2-4 mg/kg or 1-2 mg/lb) test for a couple of days would be warranted.
Approximately 2% of their body weight in grass hay spread out over 2 - 3 feedings per day.
These are always tough cases. Yes, your veterinarian is right in that obesity can result in liver damage or a "fatty liver syndrome". Just like in other animals (dogs, cats, and humans....) losing excess weight is hard and takes time. Don't get impatient. It also takes both a decrease in digestible calories AND an increase in exercise. What we have had the best luck with is using a high fiber roughage, because it keeps the donkeys happy, gives them something to do, and exercises their digestive track without providing a lot of calories. The Donkey Sanctuary recommends Barley Straw (the stems of the barley plant without any grain on it) as the best roughage. the trouble is that in most of the USA barley is not a common crop. So, instead, we have used wheat straw and it has worked just fine. This is usually reserved for horse bedding in the USA, but donkeys can use it quite effectively as feed. Make sure that there are no wheat heads in the straw and have your donkey's mouth examined to make sure the teeth are in good shape. Obviously, the donkey needs to be fenced out of places where it can "help" the horses with their feed and NO green pasture. Donkey are just not evolved to live on highly digestible feeds. Then, start taking walks with your donkey or teach it how to do obstacle courses or (what I have done) train it to pull a wagon. Donkeys enjoy "having a job" and "getting out". They are very easy to train and it is FUN! The nutrients that donkeys need that are not found in straw, are few and can be supplemented with a variety of calorie free additions to the diet, that you can feed with a low-cal treat like some chopped carrots, cucumbers, or chard.
It depends a lot on what is in the lick tub. If it is salt, other electrolytes, and trace elements, then there really isn't any danger to the donkey. On the other hand if it contains highly digestible energy sources such as molasses, beet pulp, or fats/oils it could very well be harmful to a donkey, with its much lower energy requirement and high propensity for obesity.
I would start with a good dental exam. Particularly with age this can seriously affect body condition and feed conversion. Deworming is a good idea, but a fecal exam 2 weeks after deworming will tell you if she has encysted small strongyles. She may require a Fenbendazole power pack. Deworming should always be evaluated by fecal analysis. We were teaching owners how to do these at the donkey welfare symposium. All you need is a child's microscope. After that, assuming the diet is adequate, it may be necessary to investigate further by some blood work: complete blood count (looking for evidence of anemia or internal abscesses), fibrinogen or Serum Amyloid A (measures of inflammation), and serum chemistries (looking at liver, kidney, and other organ function). This sounds like a lot but it is only two small tubes of blood. As a basic principle: it is better to invest the money on the front end, and get a diagnosis, than to simply try things hoping for improvement. The approach can waste time and end up expending more money (not to mention the mule's welfare), in the long run. Many mules do have a body form with prominent hip bones and a pendulous abdomen, but if you feel it is getting worse rapidly, the above is the approach that I would take.
I would also add that, depending on where the mule has come from and the selenium content of the soil, as well as the feed it has been on, it may be worthwhile to check the selenium and vitamin E status of this animal as well. These can also be run on the same two tubes of blood mentioned for the other diagnostics listed. Deficiency in one or both of these nutrients can result in muscle wasting. Additionally, if the mule is older (like >15 years of age), it may also be worthwhile to have your veterinarian check ACTH levels (also a blood test) to determine if the mule has Cushing’s disease (another illness that can result in muscle atrophy and a pendulous abdomen).
There is some controversy over the exact dosage of flunixin (Banamine) in donkeys. Because they metabolize more rapidly than horses do, some have recommended a higher dose or giving it more frequently. More recently others have suggested sticking to the horse dosage because of concerns about toxicity. We use 1 mg/kg which is the horse dose and have found it efficacious and safe. Two other things to point out:
- Flunixin has the potential for hurting a donkey in several ways: it can injure the kidney at high doses or if the animal is dehydrated, it can cause gastric ulcers, and when give by intramuscular injection it can cause a serious bacterial infection call "Clostridal myositis". Any evidence of swelling or pain at the injection site should be addressed right away. This may require antibiotics or surgically opening the injection abscess. I would avoid intramuscular injection. Flunixin is well absorbed orally. We only give it by intravenous injection.
- If your donkey is colicing repeatedly a you should have a thorough veterinary workup. This should include a dental exam, blood panel, and, potentially abdominal ultrasound or radiography. this sounds like a lot, but colic means that there is something significant going on in the donkey's abdomen which could get worse and could be serious. Having a baseline of information will pay off in getting an accurate diagnosis. It would also be a very good idea to keep a record of any colic symptoms (agitation, rolling repeatedly, anorexia, etc) AND the donkey's heat cycles if it is a jennet. I actually keep a jennet who has mild colic episodes as part of her estrus. We prevent these will flunixin given orally when we know she is coming into heat.
Anyway, this topic is a bit more complex than it may seem...the short answer is 1 mg/kg, but get a diagnosis on the colic first.
No, healthy donkeys should be fed a good quality grass hay. Supplemental grain is rarely needed. At PVDR, we only supplement those in poor body condition and nursing moms.
Peaceful Valley provides a good quality coastal bermuda grass hay for all of our general population. We feed 1-1/2% of their body weight daily and allow for competition and waste (about 10 pound for a standard.
The first step is to remove any rope or halter from the donkey. It sounds like you need to contact your vet immediately, as your donkey probably needs antibiotics. Until the donkey can receive vet care, you need to clean the wound a minimum of two times a day with betadine or chlorhexidine and apply an antimicrobial ointment to the wound.
No donkey or any other animal should ever have a rope around its neck long enough to cause a wound like this.
While necessary vaccines differ depending on management system and part of the country, the Core vaccines are:
- Tetanus (tetanus toxoid)
- Eastern and Western Equine Encephalitis (EEE and WEE)
- Equine influenza (this is different from horses where influenza is not necessarily a core vaccine. "Flu" is a much more serious disease in donkeys.)
- West Nile Virus (WNV) (in most parts of the country)
Note: all vaccines should be properly started with a single injection, followed by a second ('booster') injection 2-3 weeks later. Failure to do this may result in incomplete immunity. Further booster vaccinations should be given on a yearly basis. EEE, WEE, and WNV should be boostered before the spring mosquito season starts. In parts of the country where mosquitos are active year around, repeating the EEE, WEE, and WNV vaccines every 6 months may be a good idea. If donkeys are transported frequently, or exposed to a large, transient horse population influenza vaccine may need to be given more than once a year.
Other vaccines that may be important:
- Rabies: in some parts of rural USA rabies is common in the raccoon, skunk, fox, or bat populations. In these areas equines, including donkeys should be vaccinated for local rabies recommendations.
- Potomac Horse Fever : donkeys are theoretically susceptible to this disease and in parts of the country where the disease is common (east and south east) vaccination should be considered. This vaccine can be purchased as mixed with rabies vaccine.
- Streptococcus equi or "strangles" : donkeys are susceptible to this equine disease. Control methods are controversial and should be discussed with your local veterinarian. Quarantine and Hygiene will generally keep this contagious disease out of a herd. Both live and killed vaccines exist, but they are associated with complications and should only be used in special situations.
It is always best to check with an equine veterinarian for any specific needs in your area.
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I try not to advise owners in this column to "just call a vet". However, donkeys are very stoic and is you jenny is not holding her weight, seems lethargic, and is showing the signs of pain that you describe (flat lips and head down), there could be something seriously wrong with her. The longer that this continues the more likely it is to become really serious and untreatable. The minimum that should be done is a careful physical exam and blood tests called "a CBC" and "a chemistry panel". That panel should include a test called "Triglycerides". I add that because many standard chemistry panels made for horses do not include this test. It is a way of checking for "Hyperlipemia" which is really common in donkeys, especially those that are not feeling well. Her teeth should be checked and a fecal egg count for parasites. Because she had a "choke" (throat blockage) an instrument called an "endoscope" should be passed down her esophagus to see if there were any injuries to that organ when she choked. These could be a laceration or an abscess. If the endoscope is long enough, examining the inside of her stomach would tell the veterinarian if she has gastric ulcers, which donkeys can get. Other tests might include a thoracic and abdominal ultrasound looking for tumors (donkeys do get cancer) or x-rays of her jaw and teeth if there is reason to suspect a dental problem. Dental disease or pain could make her behave as you described or choke. I hope this is helpful. We are always glad to consult with veterinarians who do not have a lot of donkey experience.
You are right that there is an association between general health and lice infestations. It is a "rich get richer and the poor get poorer" syndrome. So it would be a good idea to investigate the "big three" of weight loss. These are: 1) diet in general (which could be a problem with a nursing jenny not getting enough protein and the foal not getting enough milk as a result) 2) teeth (dental problems will absolutely cause weight loss in an adult but is unlikely to affect a foal), 3) parasites. I cannot tell from your question in what environment your donkeys live, but if they are getting any pasture doing a fecal egg count for intestinal worms would be a must. Also, since donkeys are susceptible to Parascaris equi, which does not require pasture for transmission, there could still be a worm problem. There are two kinds of donkey lice and it makes a difference which one you are dealing with. Werneckiella equi is a biting louse that causes itching but would not be expected to affect weight unless they were so infested that the donkeys didn't eat due to distraction. Haematopinus asini is a sucking louse which has the potential to cause actual blood and weight loss, in addition to itching. So, it is possible that the lice themselves could be the cause of weight loss. Beyond these causes there are a host of less common things that can affect donkey's health. So, In any event an effort should be made to determine which type of lice you have. This is pretty easy, all you need is a strong magnifying glass or a microscope. Catch one of the lice on a piece of clear Scotch tape, stick it on a microscope slide, and examine it. A picture of the two lice is attached to this answer. As far as treatment goes, do not assume that anything will kill enough of the nits to stop the infection. This includes oils or pesticides. You need to repeat your treatment in a week, allowing the current crop of nits to hatch into adults. We recommend Neem oil, which you can buy at any garden store. Us the most concentrated dilution on the label and soak the entire donkey with the solution. You have to get right down to the skin, which is difficult in the coarse hair of a donkey. This requires either a pressure livestock sprayer (which donkeys really don't like) or sponging the solution on by hand and rubbing or brush it into the hair. Neem oil is non-toxic but if you don't want your hands to smell like Neem oil, wear gloves. Then repeat in a week and again a week after that. We have had to follow this up with two more treatments at two week intervals in cases of severe infestation. Diatomaceous earth, despite what you may read on social media, does nothing for parasites, based on controlled research. Tea tree oil and lavender may or may not have any effect, but they will not kill the nits. We would recommend the Neem oil, and diligent application.
I am not sure that I can add a great deal to what your consulting veterinarians have already provided. Salmonellosis in donkeys has not been studied in any detail except on large commercial "feed lot" operations in China, where the donkeys are being raised for their hides, the raw material for traditional ejiao, a Chinese medicine supplement. So, most recommendations will be extrapolated from what has been done in horses. However, it is important to emphasize that in horses, and all other species of which I am aware, clinical salmonellosis is a disease of animals that are crowded or stressed. This includes swine, chickens, and cattle. It is seen in horses at large veterinary hospitals, racetracks, and breeding farms where animals, though they may be very well cared for, live in numbers and close quarters to which their species is not very well adapted. I do not know the size of your operation, but I would look at sources of stress and try to prevent crowding. Once pathogenic salmonella become established on a premises they can be very hard to get rid of. Suspect carriers or those that have diarrhea, should be very strictly quarantined, requiring at least six consecutive negative cultures from a laboratory experienced in growing these organisms, before they can be in contact with the general population. There is a PCR test that may also be helpful. It is very sensitive, but a positive test does not mean there are live salmonella because the test will amplify any piece of bacterial DNA. Probiotics are controversial. There is good evidence that they can decrease the chance of post operative colic surgery cases from developing diarrhea, but whether they can prevent or heal an invasive salmonella infection is questionable. They are often used because, except for their expense, they have no "down side". Again, I would look at ways in which your donkeys can be kept in small separate groups more in line with the way donkeys have evolved. I hope this helps.
Donkeys, like horses, are very sensitive to the toxin of the bacterium Clostridium tetani. ALL equids should be vaccinated for tetanus (the disease caused by this toxin) yearly, starting with two dosed given 2-4 weeks apart. This is, by far, the most important vaccine. So you need to get your donkey vaccinated (and any other donkeys or horses/mules that you may have). Because he has not been vaccinated before, he will require the two dose "start" for his immunity . This is given as preventative and will not help an animal that already has the disease. Your donkey DOES NOT have tetanus, though. The name "lock jaw" refers to the most prominent symptom in humans with tetanus. The toxin causes rigid muscle spasms which will result in the donkey arching its back, being unable to move, and eventually falling to the ground "stiff as a board". However, the earliest and most prominent symptom is a prolapse of the third eyelid, a pink piece of tissue that comes up from the corner of the eye that is nearest to the nose. I have never seen an animal with tetanus that did not do this, and it is caused by a spasm of the muscles that control this smooth sheet of tissue that wipes across the eye. Humans do not have a third eyelid. Animals with tetanus rarely recover, but with tranquilization to avoid spasms, penicillin (an antibiotic to which Clostridium tetani is very sensitive), and tetanus antitoxin (which provides immediate but short-term immunity and is different from a vaccine), some do survive. The chewing that you describe is almost certainly the result of a dental problem that is causing your donkey's jaw to "catch" as his jaw rotates in chewing. As donkeys age they wear their teeth, and this can result in an uneven chewing surface preventing the teeth from smoothly sliding over each other as they grind their food. You should have his mouth examined by a competent veterinarian or equine dentist as soon as possible. Another possibility is an injury to or arthritis of one or both tempero-mandibular joints (TMJ), that attach his jaw to his skull. Diagnosis of a TMJ problem will require x-rays, and can be quite treatable depending on the exact problem and degree of injury. So, don't worry about your donkey having tetanus now, but make sure you get any equids on the farm vaccinated with Tetanus Toxoid (the technical name of the vaccine for tetanus) just as soon as possible, and have his teeth examined at the same time.
It sounds like your donkeys have developed an allergy or hypersensitive reaction to something in their environment. There are a lot of possibilities, and they are not always easy to track down. I would start by looking at the hay. Have you gotten a new batch recently? Is there any mold in the hay? Then I would consider insects. These can vary a lot from one geographic location to another, and because California rarely had serious freezes to kill insects (were are in the Sacramento Delta and that is certainly true here) the bugs are never completely gone. Are there changes in their bedding or any kind of excavations nearby that might be producing irritating dust? The good news is that these sorts of irritants are usually seasonal. Antihistamines or mild steroid medications may be necessary to get the hypersensitivity under control. Finally, look very closely at their mane and chest hairs for lice, which are about the size of a pen point and move. Their eggs or "nits" stick to hairs, again, often in the main. They are also tiny, but if you notice a lot of hairs with similar sized oblong bodies sticking to them, you probably have lice. Lice can be treated with Equispot (a pyrethrin) or Neem Oil baths. These need to be repeated in a week after the initial dose to kill the new lice when the hatch. Your veterinarian can look at donkey hair with a microscope to diagnose lice.
We use Fenbendazole power packs on donkeys that may have heavy parasite loads and encysted small strongyles. This is when the worms infect the donkey, but instead of completing their life cycles and laying eggs, they burrow into the mucosa of the intestines and form cysts that antihelminthics (dewormers) penetrate poorly or not at all. This protects the parasite and they "hide" there until environmental conditions are right, usually spring increase in pasture quality, and "de-encyst" causing mucosal irritation and the production of eggs that contaminate the pasture. Fenbendazole is probably the safest of all antihelminthics and power packs are safe for donkeys. The biggest concern is that overuse and administering at sub-therapeutic dosages can result in the development of parasite resistance to the agent. For this reason we use other antihelminthics for most deworming, keeping Fenbendazole "in reserve". Using once as a "power pack" would not be a problem, however.
Ivermectin is an appropriate wormer for a 6 month old donkey. Be sure and make an accurate estimation of its weight and follow the dosage directions on the paste or liquid that you will be using. In young animals that have not been previously dewormed, it is sometimes recommended that ½ doses of wormer be given daily for 2 days, then wait for 5 days before giving a full dose. The idea is to kill the large ascarid worms (Parascaris equorum) more slowly so that they do not create a small intestinal impaction. Also, because benzimidazoles like Fenbendazol (Panacur) do not paralyze ascarids as rapidly as ivermectin you might consider using this approach. However, in general both ivermectin and fenbendazole are equally safe and effective. It is a good idea to have a fecal egg count done to get some idea of the actual parasite load both before and after treating for parasites. These are easily done and inexpensive. Just get a fresh fecal ball from each donkey in a plastic bag to your veterinarian. If you need to, they can be refrigerated overnight to prevent destruction of the microscopic worm eggs that the test is made to detect.
Glad you are enjoying your rescue donkey and I admire your willingness to worry about and care for him. The baldness pattern that you describe does sound like lice. So I would look again, very closely, combing through the hair on the sides of his neck and in his mane, under good light, because the little buggers can be very hard to see. However, there are certainly other things that could cause this condition. Making sure he is on a good diet, with a trace mineral supplement designed for donkeys, and maybe a tablespoon of flax seed once a day would be a good place to start. Simply grooming can help too. Getting rid of broken hairs that may be the result of previous poor nutrition and care, will improve how he looks and the brushing will stimulate circulation in the skin. Also fly control, using a good repellent like Piranha or a fly sheet (if the flies are really bad) would be a good idea. Finally, donkeys do tend to have sensitive skin. If bald areas persist or if you actually get ulcers on the skin, having a biopsy taken will determine if there is an allergic condition going on that might require anti inflammatories, such as an anti-histamine.
Tick sprays (like fipronil) used on dogs will kill ticks on donkeys. You can also put liquid Ivermectin on individual ticks and it will kill them and make them drop off. While these are all safe for donkeys, even young ones, you might also consider sponging a Neem oil solution on your donkey. You can buy Neem oil in the garden section of the hardware store. Follow the dilution directions for insects on plants and saturate the hair coat.
The most important part of a deworming program is the analysis that you do by running a fecal analysis, from time to time on your animals. Worming every month may be too much or just right depending on the microenvironment on your pasture. This is almost impossible to evaluate in every individual case. So collecting a few fecal samples, and having them analyzed for worm eggs (which are microscopic) is essential to getting parasite control right. You should be able to get with your vet about doing the analysis. The analysis does not require expensive equipment: basic microscope (the kind they use in elementary or HS biology labs will do), some glass slides, and kitchen salt (and a few measuring tools).
It is always best to check with a veterinarian in your area.
At PVDR, we deworm twice per year in the Spring and the Fall as the weather changes.
If your donkey has anxiety about having his hooves trimmed there are several things that you can do. I would always start by concentrating on making the hoof trimming as pleasurable an experience as possible. Pick his hooves up every day and clean them out. You can even get a small rasp (Cody James makes a nice light farrier's rasp or you can get an inexpensive one at Centaur Forge https://www.centaurforge.com/14-Diamond-Rasp-File/productinfo/DIARASP/)
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Just have it with you when you clean out his hooves and start running over the soles of his feet a couple of times, just so he gets the sound and the motion. You don't have to take much off and you won't hurt him (but wear gloves as the rasps can hurt your hands). Reward him for standing still with a piece of carrot. Start holding the hoof for 2 seconds, then reward. Then go to 5 sec., 10 sec., a minute, 3 minutes, 5 minutes etc. This may take a little while in a really upset donkey, but anybody can do this. Always try to give him his hoof back BEFORE he gets anxious and tries to move. This is not a race, it is a slow process of building trust. Then get a friend to stand there while you are doing this. This person can then (after several sessions) start doing the same thing with your donkey. Then pay your farrier to stop by and introduce themselves to your donkey and maybe feed him (the donkey) a carrot slice or two. Then have your farrier start picking up the hooves and for the first few trims if he/she doesn't trim them in super detail that is okay. Just do it once or twice a month for a while. I KNOW this will take some time and it will also cost something. However, in the long run you and your donkey will be much happier. There are sedatives that can be given. The safest and least expensive of this is Gabapentin, which can be given orally, by mixing crushed pill with a little molasses and apple sauce to make a tasty paste or we use little balls that are made out of flax with just enough molasses to make them stick together. Something about the size of a golf ball is good. There is a potent sedative, Detomidine (sold as Dormosodan) that can be given as an oral gel. It is somewhat expensive and you have to be careful with the dosage. As a former farrier myself I really do not like working with heavily sedated animals because they tend to stagger and startle themselves when they lose their balance. Also, Detomidine (and the other "alpha 2" sedatives like xylazine and romifidine) will rarely cause very adverse reactions in individual animals. People who say they don't just have not sedated many horses or donkeys. Detomidiine, xylazine, romifidine, butorphenol, and acepromazine all have sedative effects. They require a persccription and a veterinarian to administer them. There are certainly times when these can be very useful, especially in animals that are in pain or need to be trimmed on a given day with no alternatives. However, the time put in building trust and confidence is more than worth it by comparison. The "vitamin based" over the counter "calming pastes" are a waste of money and have no objective proof of efficacy. If you are going to do that, just feed carrot slices while your donkey is being trimmed. It works just as well.
This is probably the most common question that we get. I understand that it can be difficult to get donkey's hooves trimmed and that veterinary intervention can be expensive. Further, you don't want to have to give your donkey tranquilizing drugs every 6-8 weeks. On the other hand, the various supplements and diets that claim to calm or tranquilize animals really do not work. They are not based on any reliable research, and are, basically, a waste of your money. Especially since this is something that you (and your donkeys) will have to deal with for the rest of their lives (which may be 30 years), by far the best approach would be to get your donkeys used to having their hooves trimmed, using a gentle and consistent training program. Even if you have no experience training donkeys, you can do this, because these animals are easy to train. It does take patience and a willingness to try to see things from the donkey's standpoint. For guidance I would suggest "shaping plans" by Ben Hart at www.hartshorsemanship.com or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeR2nO_sLsE.
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You will also need a farrier who wants to work with donkeys. They are not "horses with long ears". Also, they are not "stubborn", "naughty", or "difficulty". They are just acting in what they perceive to be their best interest and it is worthwhile putting in the time to work with them. If you can halter your rescue donkeys that is a good start. I encourage you to work with them and go further.
The first thing that you need to do is to make sure that the foal is not wearing a hole in the skin on the end of the leg that is missing a hoof. If this happens and the bone becomes exposed and contaminated with dirt, it will be very hard to successfully do anything for this little guy. It would be very helpful if you could take a couple of pictures (side and front to back) and send them to me. That would allow me to get an idea of possible surgical options for this foal. It is possible that a procedure called "fetlock arthrodesis" may be able to straighten the lower leg and put hoof material in contact with the ground, but it is hard to tell from just a description. To protect the lower leg, just pulling a sweat sock with cotton stuffed inside may be adequate. If you do that and then tape the top of the sock to the foal's hair somewhere on a straight bone above the ankle, this will give some temporary protection. Use white medical tape (the cloth kind) or Elastacon. Do not wrap it too tight and do NOT use Vetwrap. Otherwise the tape could act as a torniquet and impare the blood supply to the leg. IF there is any good news it is that this is a hind leg on a mini. Because they don't weigh as much as full sized donkeys this one may be able to do okay with a custome made boot to protect the skin, even if the leg cannot be repaired. However, it will take a lot of time and dedication, and, possibly , some expense to deal with this leg. You are a kind person who worries about the foal's suffering, and I admire that . So you will have to decide whether you want to pursue treatment, which may last all of this mini's life, or whether you should give it relief by preventing suffering now. Thank you for being diligent.
I am assuming that your donkey is otherwise healthy and he has a place to go where he does not have to stand in snow or frozen mud. I very cold climates donkeys need a place where their hooves can on dry bedding. They are not evolved to live in very cold or damp conditions. Another thing to consider is that donkeys, unlike horses, will develop laminitis (founder) in their rear hooves, without having the problem in their fronts. Your farrier, hoof trimmer, or veterinarian could help you determine if this is the problem. Cavallo (https://www.cavallo-inc.com)also makes boots that will fit donkeys. It is important that if you were going to go that route to keep your donkey's hooves warm that those boots are removed and cleaned at least once a day, and that the donkey is not in a wet environment.
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I am really sorry to hear about your donkey and especially because these are really difficult cases to treat. The things that I would look at would be, first, how are the hooves being trimmed? If he is wearing pads but is remaining lame looking at the way that that the hooves are trimmed. Looking at the hoof angle and the amount of sole that is remaining on the coffin bone are important. If your farrier is not familiar with trimming donkeys with laminitis they can get more information from The Donkey Sanctuary website or from Megan Hensley at https://www.holistichooves.com. We also like Cavalo Boots for hoof protection is the sole is thin. They are available in sizes that fit donkeys. Another consideration that would be related to his not eating well include liver function tests, because when donkeys go "off feed" they can accumulate fat in their liver. Besides liver enzymes a test called "bile acids" would be a good idea. When the blood is being tested they should also look at the triglyceride level, because increased circulating lipids (hyperlipemia) can cause depression and liver damage. A donkey with Cushings would be more prone to this problem. Finally, consider treating him for gastric ulcers, which donkeys get, especially if they have been on phenylbutazone or related analgesics for a long time. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of other pain killers available, though you might try Gabapentin, which is a totally different class of analgesics. We have had some positive results with this approach, and Gabapentin can be use very long term (I take it myself for pain in one of my own legs). I hope this helps.
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That is possible. You could test this by letting them walk around in very soft ground. If their soles are too short the soft ground should make them more comfortable. Farriers who don't regularly trim donkeys can make too mistakes commonly: 1. Donkey hooves, particularly the sole, should be a bit longer than what we leave in horses, 2. Donkeys normally have a steeper hoof angle than horses. You can get advice for trimming donkey feet from The Donkey Sanctuary's web site under hoof trimming. A farrier here on the west coast, Megan Hensley (https://www.holistichooves.com/about) is also a good place to go for advice and farrier training.
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Assuming that there is no injury or swelling in the effected leg, it is reasonable to assume the foot is the source of lameness. The most common reason is a sole abscess. Donkeys are prone to these, especially if there is moisture on the ground or their hooves are not regularly trimmed. Depending on what you used for a poultice (there are thousands of poultice recipes) it may soften the hoof and allow the abscess to open, thus relieving the pressure. If this does not relieve the lameness in a couple of days, you should have a farrier (with experience in handling donkeys) or a veterinarian look at your donkey. You can learn to trim your own donkey's hooves with a farrier's rasp and sometimes this is easier (and cheaper) than having to rely on a farrier or hoof trimmer. You can go to this blog : https://www.holistichooves.com/classes for more information.
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The best thing to do is to just work on the donkey yourself, or have a friend with whom the donkey is familiar, start working with her feet. I realize that she is scared and resistant, but donkeys will learn that hoof care is not painful or traumatic, if you take your time and are patient. Ben Hart has shaping plans for training donkeys to allow their hooves to be handled at www.hartshorsemanship.com specifically https://www.hartshorsemanship.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=controller.viewPageBasket
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We use small slices of carrots as rewards. Start by getting donkey to allow you to run your hand down the leg to the hoof. This may take a while, but just go slow. Try to stop before donkey resists and reward small things. For instance, if the donkey will allow you to run your hand to their knee, reward with carrot treat in 3 seconds. Then keep going just a little further, rewarding each improvement. Do not use punishment, it will only make them afraid and more willing to fight. Eventually when you get to the hoof, ask the donkey to flex its fetlock a little, and reward when they do. Don't try to lift the hoof until donkey allows you to touch the back of the fetlock and flex it willingly. How long? In a donkey that basically was okay with its legs and just had a bad experience , this could take just a few days. We have trained a completely wild mule to pick up its hooves and be trimmed, but that took 4 months. It just depends. You need a new farrier of course, but if you want to, you can learn how to trim your donkey's hooves yourself. If you just have a good rasp, you can rasp a little every day and avoid a long trimming process.
We have had the best luck with Cavallo mini boots (https://www.cavallo-inc.com/product-category/hoof-boot/mini-hoof-boots/) . Even if they don't fit exactly by the chart they seem to work on donkeys as long as you don't buy a version that is too small.
I suspect that the pasture is the problem itself. This time of year, most parts of the country have plant growth that is too high in soluble carbohydrates for donkeys. Donkey metabolism is different from that of horses, because of the extreme desert environment in which they evolved. Also, is she over weight? The combination of the proinflammatory effects of excess fat and the high sugar content of grasses further promotes laminitis. Other things that can help: soaking feet in ice water has proven to be one of the more effective approaches to acute laminitis. You will need to get veterinary and farrier assistance soon. Part of this will be a planned weight reduction diet, which usually involves feeding straw as a roughage. These can be difficult to treat and we wish you luck.
Detomidine (Dormosedan) gel would be a reasonable thing to do, assuming the younger donkey will allow you to put something in its mouth. I will say that putting effort into training your donkey to accept hoof trimming is a better and safer idea in the long run. Start by just getting the little guy to pick up its feet easily and hold them as he would have to for the farrier. Just a few seconds at first, followed by a reward (we prefer carrot slices), gradually increasing the time until he will tolerate, and look forward to, a process that takes a half hour. Then get yourself a small hoof rasp and rasp the hooves a little: again, short periods followed by rewards. Then have the farrier out to just to pick up feet for short period, even though you will have to pay them for their time. Eventually you will have a compliant donkey and it will be much more convenient. Since donkey is going to need a lot of hoof trims in the remaining maybe 35 years of its life, putting in a little time now will really pay off. If you need a plan for hoof training go to www.hartshorsemanship.com. Some farriers these days will only work on sedated animals. If that is the case...get another farrier.
Your donkey is locking its patellar ligaments over the end of his femur (thigh bone). Equines of all species can do this because it allows them to rest standing, which is important in a prey species. However, in some animals the space between the middle and the medial patellar ligaments is abnormal and the structure "catches" on a prominence on the end of the femur. In extreme cases it will actually lock the stifle (knee) joint, making it impossible for the animal to flex its hind leg. More commonly it catches and then pops free, giving the let a jerking motion when moving. Depending on how badly the joint catches or locks, this can eventually contribute pain and arthritis in the joint. There really aren't any supplements that will help, other than standard good nutrition. Poor nutrition during the growing years is a predisposing factor. Donkeys are also more prone this problem than horses or mules. Minis are especially commonly effected. Fortunately, there are a number of effective treatments:
Many just grow out of the condition as they mature
Exercise is beneficial, as improved muscle tone in the hind legs seems to keep the catching from happening....especially climbing hills will help
Trimming the hind hooves so that the lateral wall is slightly long , thus tilting the hoof laterally, will often solve the problem, in my experience, and is something that I would always try first. This should not be done radically, but a couple of extra 'licks' with the farrier's rasp on the inner wall will usually do it.
Various techniques to cause a small amount of scar formation in the medial patellar ligament will change the conformation of the inter-ligamental space and prevents the triangle formed by the two ligaments from getting caught. These involve either injecting a mild inflammatory agent into the ligament or just inserting a needle or small scalpel blade to spread some of the ligament fibers and start a very small amount of bleeding. The resultant scar makes the space smaller. All this can be done with a local anesthetic and sedation. It takes a few seconds, can be done at your farm, and has nearly no complications.
In the most persistent cases, the medial patellar ligament can be cut, because it is not essential to the functioning of the joint. This changes the inter-ligamental space the most and is always curative. Again, this only requires sedation (or mild field anesthesia in an untrained patient) and local anesthetic. It is recommended that the donkey or horse be kept in a stall for month afterward, as there have been very rare reports of patellar fracturs following this procedure, though I have never seen this happen in 43 years of practice.
Exercise and hoof trimming resolves milder cases, in my experience.
You clearly have a very complex problem with this mini and some of these behaviors will require patience and time to reverse. I would recommend contacting Benjamin Hart at https://www.hartshorsemanship.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=controller.viewPageContact.Ben has a world of experience in donkey behavior problems and is the behaviorist for The Donkey Sanctuary in Sidmouth UK, the largest donkey sanctuary and welfare organization in the world. He is also a good friend who has helped us a lot with donkey behavioral issues over the years. When you contact him, tell him that Cindy Davis recommended that you ask him for help.
On the rain rot: that is also tough as donkeys tend to have skin (and hoof) problems in wet climates such as the northern States and the South East. Their skin and hooves are just poorly adpated to moisture. I wonder if he would be better about going into the shelter if he had another donkey as a friend. Our donkeys have no interest in being out in the rain, even when the horses are just getting soaked. They stay in their barn together at the first droplets. That is just a thought and cannot guarantee that it would work. You can also help prevent rain rot by regular grooming and by brushing a mild disinfectant like white vinegar into the areas where the moisture tends to accumulate.
I would suggest Dormosedan gel given at the horse dose. It HAS to be given 40 minutes (can be longer) before he starts.
I forward the Dormosedan gel suggestion. For oral dosing of Dormosedan gel, my experience is that a recalcitrant donk may take almost twice the horse dose. And waiting the 30-40 minutes is really important, even if they start dropping their head after 10 minutes. Better to have the farrier working on another animal if possible as the sedation takes affect. Farriers are understandably impatient because they are not usually getting paid to wait around.
For these cases, I usually have them try and schedule me and the farrier together for the first visit and I administer the Dormosedan intravenously (or sometimes intramuscular depending on restraint capabilities and cooperative nature of the donkey in question.) That gives us an idea of how much Dormosedan Gel should be dosed in the future for dispensing to the owner. If there needs to be a redosing on that preliminary visit, I am there to do it with intravenous injection. This keeps the farrier happy and more likely to come a second time (and third and fourth and…)
All that being said, sedation is only a temporary solution. It is absolutely vital that the donkey owner spend daily sessions (less than 10 minutes a day) training their donkey to have their feet picked up. They will save hundreds of dollars in vet and farrier bills in the long run and may even save the animal’s life.
We recommend swat, continue fly spray and use external measures such as fly bait (we use fly strike) and we use clarify tubs to prevent flies from breeding in the manure
Most importantly is time and patience. Donkeys are incredibly smart and the best way to train them is through positive reinforcement. Take your time. Spend 15 or so minutes every day. We have several "how-to" videos on our YouTube channel which can be found at www.donkeyrescue.tv -- examples include "How to Trailer your donkey" and "How to pick up donkey's hooves."
Here is a link to our YouTube channel which if you scroll down a bit, has lots of "how to" videos on this particular subject: www.donkeyrescue.tv -- Most importantly is time and patience. Donkeys are incredibly smart and the best way to train them is through positive reinforcement. Take your time. Spend 15 or so minutes every day, even if those steps are baby steps.
If after reviewing these videos, you still have some specific questions, please let us know -- we're happy to help.
Before assuming that the coffin bone is involved you should definitely get radiographs (x-rays). Even if it IS involved , as long as the coffin joint or navicular bursa are not involved, this is likely treatable . To get abscesses to heal you need to:
1. Remove any hoof wall or sole covering the abscess material as the bacteria that cause the infections are sensitive to oxygen AND you have to get any dirt or sand out of the area that is trying to heal.
2. Get rid of the bacterial infection, without using caustic agents which retard healing by injuring the hoof tissue. Antibiotics used locally (NOT by injection or feed into the donkey), such as metronidazole or tetracycline work well for this.
3. keep the hooves scrupulously dry (again: no caustics, just a dry environment). It does take months for the hoof wall that separated at the coronary band to grow all the way out and be replaced by normal wall. However, once the infection and dirt is remove from the abscess track the tissue should start to granulate and heal and the pain should resolve. The fact that you still have exudate (puss) suggests that there is still infection lurking under the wall or sole.
Radiographs can help identify these and also tell the farrier where they can trim more, without contacting bone. Sometimes removing the wall/sole can be done more exactly with a Dremel tool. Also, there are times when so much wall needs to be removed that you lose more than 2/3's of the circumference of the normal weight bearing wall of the hoof. If this happens you may need to put a padded boot or other protective device on the hoof. This will need to be removed, cleaned, and the tissues treated daily. It is hard to recommend the exact location of trimming or of boot placement without seeing the hoof and x-rays. So these are general recommendations.
Grass hay is the number one feed choice for donkeys. Types of grass hay include: Bermuda, Coastal Bermuda, Orchard, Timothy & Brome.
It would be best to get a veterinarian out to the farm to take a look at your mule. Since it sounds like he has always had some sensitivity in that area, a thorough exam is a very good idea. It may be an abscess, or it may require further diagnostics such as x-rays to determine the cause of the sensitivity and then come up with the best treatment plan. Further, mules and donkeys, unlike most horses, can have pain in the lateral sulci (deep grooves next to the frog) resulting from chronic anaerobic bacterial infection thinning the keratinized covering of the sensitive tissues that form the sole and frog. They will react to minor hoof pick pressure. They respond to treating the infection (sometimes called "thrush") and allowing the hooves to dry out and toughen.
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A donkey's teeth can acquire sharp edges from years of grinding their food. These edges can cut the inside of the mouth making it difficult for a donkey to chew properly. A warning sign is wet clumps of undigested hay laying in the feeding area. A procedure known as "floating" grinds the sharp edges down and creates a more even bite. The procedure is usually done under a light sedation and the donkey must be immobilized.
All donkeys teeth will be checked annually by our in-house medical staff, this can be done in conjunction with annual vaccines. Any donkey over the age of 10 should be checked annually for teeth problems by a certified professional. Aside from sharp edges, another major problem is lost teeth. Old Age, poor food quality and fighting are the most common causes of tooth loss. Without the upper and lower tooth working together, a donkey cannot chew food properly. Weight loss is a sign of chronic tooth problems.
All senior donkeys 20+ should have their teeth checked every six months by a certified professional. They should also be assessed for additional feed requirements. Sweet feed is a good choice as it is easy to chew. All dental work must be recorded on Lightspoke.
Occasional diarrhea occurs in all ages of donkeys. When a nursing foals develop diarrhea, it can be from hormonal changes in the mare as she progresses through the estrus cycle, mild virus infections, digestive upset from changes in the intestinal bacteria (microflora), or for other reasons that seem to be very hard to diagnose. As long as this involves an occasional "squirt" of loose feces and the foal is bright and eating, it is not a big problem. Mild diarrhea in an otherwise healthy foal will respond to Peptobismol. If the foal is over a month old it would also be a good idea to have its feces checked for worm parasites, as these can cause loose stool.
Abdominal pain, also known as colic could be keeping your donkey from eating and drinking. Besides his general level of health, it also depends on how long he has been not eating. If it just today (last 12 hours) Banamine (Flunixin meglumine) could make an impaction in his digestive track feel better, allowing the return of normal motility, and get him to be interested in food and water. However, there are a lot of things that can make an animal not want to eat. Does he have a fever (rectal temperature over 101.5 F)? Does he have any signs of chronic laminitis (founder)? When were his teeth looked at last? Although Banamine given at the normal horse dose 1 mg/kg, which would be about 2.5 mls in your donkey's case is generally pretty safe, like all NSAID's it can have side effects on the gastrointestinal track and kidneys, especially if given frequently or if the animal is dehydrated. So, you could try the Banamine once. However, if this does not change the situation, or if the problem has been going on for a day or more, you really need to have a veterinary examination. As with all herbivores, not eating palatable food when offered is abnormal, and, because donkeys are very stoic anyway, your donkey could have a serious health problem which will only get worse without diagnosis and treatment .
If worms are causing the problem, they would be "Pin Worms" , Oxyuris equi. They live in the colon and cause itching when the females migrate down the rectum and out through the anus where they lay their eggs. We used use Scotch tape to pickup the eggs by a horse or donkey's anus, for diagnosis. However, with modern wormers Oxyuris is rarely found. Other causes of itching (which usually involves the tail) are lice (Damelina equi or Haematopinus asini) or insect bite hypersensitivity (common in minis). The lice are very small and can be found, along with their eggs, most easily in the mane. You can tell the eggs (nits) because there will be very tiny bodies attached to the hairs, which are all the same size. It may be necessary to have a magnifying glass to see them. With patience you can see the adult lice move, though you may need a magnifying glass. Lice in donkeys can be treated with Carbaryl, Equi Spot, or Neem Oil baths. Anything that will cause skin hypersensitivity can cause them to itch, and, again, this is common in minis. That can be treated with antihistamines or anti-inflammatory steroids. We have one mini here that requires a fly blanket in the summer, because any amount of fly contact sets off a serious scratching episode which can cause her to lose all the hair on her rump. I would start by ruling out the lice, and then considering treating her for skin allergy.
This is a tough one. I am not sure what country you are in , though I guess it might be Mexico. This makes a difference because the incidence of rabies differs between countries, as does the type of fly that may have caused those maggots. North of Panama, the screw worm fly has been eradicated, but in other parts of the tropics and south Asia these insects exist. This is important because regular maggots of the house fly or stable fly only eat dead tissue. Screw worm fly maggots will eat into living parts of the animal and cause severe disease. A compound (open) fracture like that is very unlikely to heal on its own, depending a little bit on what bone is actually broken. In fact, in a modern veterinary surgery I would give the owner a poor prognosis for success, with IV antibiotics, and orthopedic implants. However, I have seen these heal, and actually have a donkey that we rescued from Mexico with a radial fracture that healed on its own. The problem is that this poor animal is going to suffer for months and months, on the tiny chance that the fragments may form some kind of union. More likely it will die of starvation or being eaten by dogs when it gets to the point that it cannot mover around. For this reason, we would generally recommend euthanasia, which in many parts of the world is a problem in itself. In the years that I have worked in Central America and Mexico, "putting an animal to sleep" is not culturally accepted. Occasionally, an incapacitated horse will be slaughtered and butchered for meat, but donkey meat is not eaten in those countries. Then there is the problem of how one would euthanize under those circumstances. Without a veterinarian available, about your only option is gunshot, which while effective and humane, has all kinds of legal and safety implications in the countriside of many places. Believe me, I have come across these cases a number of times, and , even as a veterinarian they are very very taxing on the soul. I guess I would provide this donkey as much feed as you can, and possibly find some straw, leaves, or corn stalk for it to bed on. Don't worry about the water. Just make it available, If the donkey needs water it will drink. The only other alternative would be to pass a nasogastric tube and put water in its stomach, but that will require a veterinarian or skilled technician and is likely unnecessary. Attempts to splint the leg, unless you plan to be in the area for months and care for it daily, are likely to just make matters worse and create more pain. I am sorry that I cannot help more with this, because I have definitely been there.
Some donkeys will occasionally have soft feces or diarrhea. It does not seem to be a problem for them and is probably the result of them chewing on a particular branch or weed, or, possibly, something that is making them upset. However, particularly if your donkey eats dirt, it would be a good idea to be sure that she is not accumulating sand in her large colon. To do this get a handful of her poop, put it in a plastic bag with water and shake it up until it dissolves. Then hang it up for 5-10 minutes and see if any sand accumulates at the bottom of the bag. If there is more than a teaspoon of sand, she may have sand in her large colon. Your veterinarian can also diagnose this by listening to the bottom of her abdomen with a stethoscope. Sand in the colon responds to feeding psyllium, which can be purchased either as pellets or in bulk from Bulk Foods. com (this is cheaper than the pellets). Long term sand in the colon can result in weight loss and, if it gets to be too much, can also cause a small colon impaction, which can be serious. I would try to rule this out as a cause of her soft manure.
Without a little more information, such as other donkeys or horses in the corral, access to other feeds, and the consistency of the swelling it is a little hard to give you a good idea of what may be causing the swelling. I would not feed any alfalfa to a donkey though. It is too high digestible energy and will cause them to become obese. It is also very fermentable and may be swelling this donkey's colon with gas. I would stick to just grass hay (orchard, rye, or Teff) and mix it with some straw. Donkeys are much much better at extracting nutrients from feed than horses.
Drinking for 29 minutes is definitely abnormal. Your donkey requires a veterinary exam, and, while I appreciate your registering for the Donkey Welfare Symposium, that would be way too long to wait. There are a number of things metabolic conditions that could increase water consumption, but it may also be that he is experiencing oral or gastric (stomach) pain, which might result in him keeping his nose in the water trough. He might also have a chronic fever, raising his body temperature. So a veterinarian would start with a complete physical exam, which, of course, would include an examination of the oral cavity and taking his temperature. Then there would be some blood work required, looking for kidney problems, inflammation of any kind, or elevated blood glucose. The blood chemistry should include a test for triglycerides, which sometimes is not on a chemistry panel for horses. So your veterinarian should include that as part of the initial work up. I would encourage you to have your donkey examined as soon as possible.
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She may have an intestinal obstruction, but if this has been going on for 10 days she could not be completely occluded. What concerns me is her temperature of 104, which is a fever. In a post partum jennet she could also have a uterine infection which could be quite serious. If you can get close enough to take her temperature, can she be restrained in any way? She really needs a veterinary exam to determine the source of the fever, antibiotics, and probably fluids either IV or by tube. A veterinarian could sedate her for the exam and treatment. There are short term medications that you can give for the colic pain, but they are only a short term solution and could have serious side effects if she is dehydrated. It sounds like you are in a desert area. Finding a veterinarian or an experienced rescue that works with donkeys should be possible. Psyllium (Metamucil) can soften feces and ease impaction colics if they will eat it but it must be taken with water, and that does not address the fever. If you would like to discuss this more or possibly look for local help.
With pituitary metabolic disease you are going to the a redistribution of fat to the ventral abdomen (which tends to occur in older donkeys either way). If diarrhea was an issue I would DEFINITELY have a veterinarian auscultate, ultrasound, and/or x-ray the abdomen looking for sand. Also, the teeth definitely need examination because PPID is associated with dental disease and the will affect feed conversion. I would not be in a great hurry to increase protein intake until these issues have been sorted out, as high levels of protein that are not used for muscle formation, which will only occur at a low level in an older donkey, will increase the nitrogen load on the old kidneys. As a feed in older donkeys, particularly if they have bad teeth is Purina's Equine Senior. We had a small standard donkey that was living entirely on Equine Senior at the rate of 9 cups a day. He really got no other feed. In an animal with some dental ability, no sand, and controlled PPID, one might start at 6 cups a day, but I would definitely measure the donkey with a weight tape regularly, to monitor weight game and avoid the development of obesity. Be realistic about 'building her topline'. Metabolic disease driven by a PPID will determine the donkey's body confirmation, no matter what.
In the absence of more information there are a lot of possibilities. It would be nice to know a little about what part of the country and any laboratory tests that the veterinarian ran (even if the results were normal). It would also be important to determine if the owner's excellent observation of resting a hind leg went along with any signs of lameness when the donkey was asked to walk. Vaccination history (viral neurologic diseases can present like this)? If the donkey was actually dehydrated, how was that determined? Dehydration doesn't just happen if adequate water is available, meaning that abnormal water balance due to kidney or intestinal problems should be considered. ALSO, maybe it just because I used to practice on the coast, I would definitely investigate the possibility of sand accumulation in the large colon (which can cause abdominal discomfort and colic). This can be done easily with a stethoscope (put on lowest part of abdomen and listen for 5 minutes for sounds that mimic the tide running through sand on a beach), though ultrasound and x-rays are more definitive and gives you an idea of exactly how bad the problem is. Hyperlipemia would always be a concern in a case like this.
As is so often the case, the numbers behind donkey blood values tend to be small, and the establishing of normals is often not done. The important question is: does this donkey with a GGT of 75 have OTHER abnormalities? Is it eating? maintaining weight? or showing any signs of discomfort, lethargy, or inflammation? Generally, a single abnormal value, even when significantly high as in this case, doesn't mean much in the absence of any other identified problems. While it could mean liver disease, it might also be the result of an animal being out "on the end of the bell shaped curve" of normals (especially since the donkey curves are bit fuzzy), OR there might have been some problem with processing the sample (blood cells ruptured in transport, for instance). I would recommend doing a very thorough physical exam, looking at a complete blood count and chemistry panel, AND repeating the GGT for confirmation. A liver ultrasound wouldn't be a bad idea either.
if there aren’t any concerning clinical signs and this is the only elevation seen on bloodwork, I probably wouldn’t panic, but I’d certainly recommend following-up to look at trends over time. I’m also a huge believer in trying to establish normal values for individuals, realizing that there is a pretty wide bell shaped curve for many of these indices. Given the lack of current knowledge of normal blood values in donkeys coupled with their stoic nature, I think it would be a great idea to run more routine blood chemistries, like at the time your veterinarian is doing annual vaccines and coggins tests so that you can pick up on changes that may be happening over time. Or, bank serum from routine coggins tests in the freezer so that you can always go back and compare chemistry values from when the donkey was apparently healthy, to that when he is ill.
The exact problem that may be caused by the insulation will vary on what it is made out of. HOWEVER, all of these materials are indigestible and capable of causing intestinal blockage which can be fatal Donkeys chew on all sorts of thing, but synthetic fibers or rubber should be avoided.
his is definitely not normal. If your jennet is normally healthy and she has dilated her cervix and is expelling amniotic fluid that means she is in second stage labor. This could be a premature still birth or if the people that you got her from were wrong in their breeding date it may be a term birth. Either way, especially if she does not have milk, you need veterinary help right away. If you have experience with goats, the process of delivery is similar. It is just that equids, including donkeys, need to deliver in about 30 minutes after stage 2 labor has started. They can go longer but with increased chances of complications to both the mother and the newborn. If you have obstetrical experience, you can handle this the way you would with a goat. Thoroughly scrub the vulva area to avoid contaminating the jennet's reproductive track. Then use some KY Jelly or Ivory Soap as lubricant. Wearing a clean glove (sterile is better but not essential) and put your hand into the vaginal to feel the cervix and see if it is dilated adequately. If you contact a fetus, determine if it is presenting with both front legs and the head coming first, OR both hind legs. It is fairly easy to tell the difference: Front legs come with the sole of the hoof down, hind legs come with the soles up and you can tell the difference between hocks and knees pretty easily. If you have two hind legs coming DO NOT try to turn the fetus around. They can deliver just fine backwards, but once the hind legs are out the fetus has to come right away or it will suffocate. So, if you have hind legs and things are not moving do not be afraid to grasp the hind legs and pull firmly until foal is delivered. What is called a "Breech Presentation" is different. That is where all you will feel is the fetus' tail, because it is facing forward into the mother, and its legs are pointing forward too. These are difficult and require somebody really skilled in obstetrics to sort out. If this turns out to be a small still birth, the jennet needs to have the uterus flushed with a dilute disinfectant like providone iodine or chlorhexidine (1% of either in distilled water or saline will work). Then the jennet should pass the placenta. I would advise a veterinary examination or, at least, taking her temperature twice a day (should be 101.5 F or less) to ensure she is not getting a uterine infection, that could be life threatening.
Hopefully your donkey has not foaled by now and if she has I hope it was without complications. Apparently your question went in the SPAM folder. Jennets can carry a foal for as long as 14 months. So if you got her in July, and she had just been bred it could be that she is close to foaling. Perhaps the most important thing is: Has she developed milk in her udder? If she has not there is going to be a problem when the foal comes because it should get some of that first milk (called "colostrum") within the first hour after birth. I prefer to see foals nurse in the first 15 minutes. If it does not get colostrum milk within 24 hours you have a very serious problem and the foal will require IV plasma to survive. You can use goat or cow colostrum (horse or donkey is better) but after 24 hours the foal will not be able to absorb the antibody proteins in the colostrum and it is likely to get a severe systemic infection. The discharge from the vulva could be the cervical plug of mucus breaking down and the jennet preparing to foal. Birth should occur within a day after this. Cloudy discharge could also be urine, since all equines have a lot of mucus and calcium carbonate in their urine. It could also be exudate from a vulvar or uterine infection. A veterinarian could look at a sample under the microscope and tell for sure. Again, if your jennet has not already foaled (and even if it has), a veterinary exam would be a very good idea, since some of the causes of cloudy discharge can mean serious problems.
It would be a very good idea to have your jennet examined by a veterinarian, including an ultrasound of the abdomen to get an idea of the size of the fetus and how many months she has been pregnant. This could avoid a number of problems, because while donkeys very rarely have trouble giving birth, once the cervix opens and membranes appear at the vulva, the foal should be born within a half hour. This means that IF there are problems you will have a limited time to recognize them and call your veterinarian for help. Also, the jennet should be vaccinated for, at least, tetanus in approximately the last month of gestation. This will allow her to maximize the immunity that she will transmit to her foal in the "first milk" (colostrum). It will also protect the jennet from tetanus, which, like all equids, donkeys are very susceptible to. Your veterinarian can help get the mother and foal on an effective yearly schedule of vaccination and deworming. The bump on her belly is most likely edema from the development of the mammary gland as she moves toward foaling. As the mammary tissue develops there is a lot of blood circulation in the area and some of the fluid from this "leaks" out into the tissues and causes a doughy swelling. It is nothing to worry about and does not require treatment.
If your donkey has been in stage 2 labor (cervix is open, and membranes and fluid have appeared at the vulva) she is in very serious trouble. One hour is a long time for a donkey or horse delivery. You need to get emergency veterinary assistance immediately!
At their ages these two are likely sub-fertile, but that only means a decreased chance of pregnancy. If your yearling jennet is pregnant and carries to term , it will stunt her growth, and potentially be a problem with delivery. If she was bred just in the last month you could have your veterinarian give her a shot to "short cycle" her (bring her into heat again), which would likely terminate the pregnancy. That can be done later in gestation but it is more likely to have complications. I would have your veterinarian ultrasound her to see if she is pregnant and at what stage. This is a simple, safer procedure, and most equine veterinarians have the equipment now. I have attached an article for your veterinarian if they are unfamiliar with the technique in small donkeys. You need to get that jack castrated as soon as possible. There are no "pros" to leaving him intact. It may be that you may want a donkey foal someday, but there are plenty of those with no homes. With the current overpopulation of donkeys in rescues and sanctuaries, breeding more donkeys is a bad idea. It is nearly impossible to guarantee a good life for a donkey that is going to live as long as 40 years. So even though you may think that you can do that, you need to have a plan for that period of time, and very few people do. Futher, as your jack ages the hormones are going to start developing behavioral problems in his personality. These will become "learned behavior" and then after he is several years old, castration will have less of an effect on his behavior, even though it will make him sterile. As a veterinary surgeon, I admit that I do not like having to castrate male donkeys, though we do hundreds every year. However, in this world and in this culture adult intact jacks have no future, and it is unfair to deny them a good life. I hope you will have your veterinarian castrate this 8 month old jack while he is still young, as the procedure is simpler than when they are old and the possible complications fewer.
That is very unfortunate about your mini having Strangles. The disease is caused by Streptococcus equi, and is very contagious to other donkeys, mules, and horses. So, your first issue is to make sure that no other equids come in contact with nasal discharges or drainage from your mini's abscesses. The Streptococcus can live for a short period of time on hands or instruments. Cleanliness is essential. Those abscesses that your donkey has will heal regardless of whether you clean them or not. It would be a good time to start making friends with your donkey, though. Feeding carrot slices to get her to come to you would be a start. Eventually, allowing you to touch her nose should be eventually linked to a carrot reward. You can progress to touching her further down her neck, her legs, her body by using this process and being VERY patient. It is important with food rewards that if they start trying to push you for carrots, that you do not reward that behavior. If nipping or nose butting doesn't get her what she wants, she will stop. Then when she behaves and allows more hands-on from you, she will get the reward that she has been looking for. It is important that you start on this journey, as when she foals, you will need to be able to catch, lead, and be handled.
The drugs used in capture darts would not hurt the fetus if your mini is pregnant. However, that is not your main problem. Using chemical capture in equines (horses, mules, and donkeys) is more difficult than in other species. You would need to find somebody with skill in darting these species to identify and effective drug protocol. Also, regardless of what is used, darting an animal that is loose in a forest is dangerous for the animal, because sedatives and anesthetics given intramuscularly do not work immediately. They can take as long as 15 minutes to take effect, and a mini could run a long way in that time. Then when the drugs take effect, they may be lost in the brush where you cannot find them, or, worse, have fallen into a creek or pond and drowned. A better idea would be to try to find your mini in the woods and coax it into a temporary corral with some special food or (even better) another, trained, donkey. The corral can be made out of light pipe panels that you can purchase at any feed or agricultural supply store. It is very important that your mini is not chased or frightened, because that will make her much harder to catch, and if you do have to go to a capture dart (which should be the absolute last resort) the drugs do not work as well in anxious animals in which the "fight or flight" reaction may have been triggered. Regardless of the approach used, you will have to invest some time and leg work into corralling your donkey again. Among other things, this is why we feed our donkeys a evening treat of carrots and other vegetables, that they like, expect, and will come for, even if they are out in a large area.
There are a couple of reasons why the 8 year old jennet is trying to nurse off the one with a foal. She may have had a history of not being properly weaned when she was younger. Donkeys will nurse their foals for up to two years in the wild, and trying to wean them much earlier, say 3 or 6 months is not a good idea. Additionally, are you sure that she is 8 years old? Aging donkeys by their teeth after they are 5 or 6 years old is not highly accurate, and she may be younger than you think, which, if she is actually much younger, may cause her to want to nurse. Finally, donkeys can exhibit something called "pica", which is a medical term for "an abnormal craving for and eating of substances not normally in the diet. This that occurs in nutritional deficiency states (as a lack of phosphorus ) in humans or animals or in some forms of anxiety ". I would look at the jennet's diet first. Are you feeding a mineral supplement? Is the roughage (hay) of good quality? This can be a problem because you need to balance the intake of nutrients to avoid deficiency, but at the same time not feed things like alfalfa, which are way too high in digestible energy and will lead to obesity. You can find good information on what to feed donkeys at: https://www.thedonkeysanctuary.org.uk/what-we-do/knowledge-and-advice/for-owners/what-to-feed-your-donkeys. There may also be something in this jennet's history, like separation from a bonded 'friend' or relation, or something in the herd dynamics, that is causing stress. This can lead to abnormal behaviors like pica. I encourage you to continue trying to get your donkeys as gentle as possible, trained to be caught, and to lead and be tied up. Making a daily routine out of feeding a mineral supplement mixed with carrot shreds can help with this. Do it at the same time every day and give each donkey its own bowl, until they come to expect it. Then, for the one that you cannot touch, stand closer and closer to the bowl, eventually holding it in your hands until she allows you to touch her. Drape a rope over your arm, so that she gets used to seeing that, and eventually start showing her a halter. By doing small steps every day, with something that the donkeys see as a treat, you can make a lot of progress, but you have to be patient and dedicated.
Generally jennets are very good at handling birth all by themselves. Like horses, they need to deliver in a relatively short period of time. So after the "water has broken" and membranes appear in the vulva, you should observe the jennet and be sure that the birth is progressing, to be completed in an hour. Many will deliver in a few minutes. It is a good idea to alert your veterinarian once the birth process (stage 2 labor) begins, especially if you do not have experience with foaling.
A "red bag" occurs when the entire placenta separates prematurely from its attachment to the uterus. This is a problem because the fetus gets its oxygen from that attachment, making it essential that the foal is out and able to breathe right away. A "red bag" looks just like that: a red bubble coming through the vulva at birth. If this happens, it should be opened and the foal's head exposed right away. Normally, the inner membranes, the allantois, is clear and you can see the foal's legs and head through it. This should also be removed from the foal's head to allow it to breath. These membranes can be torn open by hand, but CAREFULLY using a pair of scissors may be necessary. Red bags are rare, and usually occur because the birth has been induced, which is not necessary and not advised, except in a very limited number of high risk pregnancies, were veterinary presence is required.
You do want to have your foal examined by a veterinarian after birth. They will look for congenital abnormalities and test it for transfer of immunity from the jennet, which is essential for survival of the foal. Again, if you do not have experience foaling mares or jennets, it is a really good idea to talk to your veterinarian about specific recommendations. That said, the vast majority of jennets handle foaling and their foals just fine.
jennets close to foaling will get really wide in the abdomen. This has to do with the larger percentage of the donkey body that is behind the rib cage, versus horses. However, jennets, particularly older ones, can also appear pregnant with distension that is the result of weaker abdominal muscles, especially if they have been stretched by previous pregnancies. So to tell if a donkey was pregnant and close to foaling, one would have to see an enlarged udder in addition to a larger abdomen, and/or visualization of the fetus by ultrasound examination. Did you ever have the pregnancy diagnosed by a veterinarian? I am wondering if the change in your donkey after her being put in the barn is not the result of dietary change, rather than loss of pregnancy. This is assuming that no fetus or membranes were found.
While this will result in a larger foal, it will not be half way between a mini and a standard. There is a phenomenon called "the maternal effect" , where the dam's size has more to do with the size of the foal ( or calf or lamb or fawn or baby) has more effect on the size at birth than the sire. So while this jennet would bear watching and should be attended, it will not necessarily be dangerous to the jennet. Alternatively if you do want to abort the pregnancy that is best done in the first month of pregnancy. At that stage a hormone called 'prostaglandin' will cause changes in the ovaries which will result in terminating the pregnancy. Later on the process becomes more difficult.
Blood progesterone and estrogen levels are a little hard to interpret because we don't have the normal levels for your laboratory and am not sure what "total estrogens " is measuring. Of course, these levels have not been determined specifically for donkeys either. If the total estrogens are mainly estrone sulfate the levels could indicate pregnancy in both donkeys. The progesterone levels would be low for early pregnancy but could be lower in late pregnancy. Since, the most likely breeding was in the neighborhood of a year ago, by far the best way to answer the question of pregnancy would be by ultrasound. This can be done "percutaneously" (not rectally) by shaving a small patch on the lower left flank and scanning the abdomen with a 3 or 5 mHZ ultrasound probe. Most equine veterinarians have this equipment available and have scanned horse fetuses. Donkeys look about the same. Also, veterinarians who do a lot of equine reproductive work can age the fetus and give you a better idea of when to expect foaling, by measuring parts of the fetus with ultrasound.
I think what you are seeing is edema (fluid accumulation in the soft connective tissues) that is the result of her udder getting bigger and some of the fluid, that would normally go into milk, migrating forward under the skin. This should not be a concern in itself, as long as the jennet is otherwise normal (eating well, alert, and moving around). It is important that when a jennet is being "dried off" or "weaned" that she is fed a lower protein and energy diet. Milk production is very closely correllated to digestible calories and protein content of the diet. So it is important to feed a bulky but not-too-nutritious diet right now. Straw with a little grass hay would be ideal. You could feed a trace mineral suppliment, as long as this does not require feeding grain to make it palatable. Another thing that sometimes gets forgotten is that, in the wild , jennets will nurse their foals for as long as 2 years. They generally wean themselves over a period of time. This often does not fit in with human convenience, but nursing longer will not cause a health problem for the foal. I would check on the jennet's udder and the swelling in front of it, to make sure these areas are not hot or painful .
I would definitely put another donkey in the barn, where she could see it. When in actual labor they want to be alone, but otherwise she will be less stressed if she can see other donkeys. There are a number of reasons why she may have been looking at her flanks and being restless: foal moving, foal repositioning, or some other cause. It does not sound like she was in labor. Generally, soon after labor starts and the cervix softens and begins to dilate, "water" (amnionic fluid) is expressed from the vulva and membranes appear. Is her udder full and are there waxy plugs on the ends of her teats? The also usually drip milk as the hormones of labor cause both uterine contractions and milk expression from the mammary gland. So I don't think she stopped labor, but please watch for the above signs.
Congratulations, especially in these times the world needs more beautiful donkeys! However, the mother not eating is NOT normal. You need to get a veterinarian out to look at her right away. It has been 3 days and there are a large number of things that could be causing your mother donkey to not eat. Many of these are serious and potentially life threatening. She needs a detailed physical exam (including temperature, pulse rate/strength, and listen to lungs), a reproductive exam to be sure that she passed the whole placenta and there is not evidence of infection (metritis), a complete blood count (to look for evidence of infections or blood loss - which could be hidden in her abdomen), and a chemistry panel with triglyceride measurement (especially if she is a little fat). This needs to get done today. You can take her temperature yourself with a regular digital thermometer inserted in her rectum, but the other tests really require professional attention. Good luck and please have your jenny looked at as soon as you can.
Yes it is normal for a jennet to drain from her vagina for several days to a week or 10 das after foaling. The material is called "lochia". It is usually brown and not foul smelling. It represents the tissue and fluids that are released from the interior of the Uterus, as it transitions from pregnancy to regular estrus cycles. The drainage may be slightly "milky" too, but should not be white like Mayonnaise or have a pungent odor. If it does, a veterinarian can treat the uterus with antibiotics or disinfectants to remove any infection.
It is a little hard to say how much pawing or restlessness a donkey should show before foaling, because the repositioning of the foal in the uterus will cause some discomfort for a day or more prior to birth. However, if you are getting white milk, discharge, and pawing that foal should come today. If not having a veterinary exam may be a good idea. Making that choice before it gets late in the evening will be appreciated by your veterinarian.
This is an emergency situation requiring veterinary care. A mare who is due to foal and is down for extended periods could have some really serious problems. The lameness does not sound like laminitis, with one front and one hind leg effected. However, without seeing the donkey it is really hard to tell from this brief description. Certainly, you should get a look at the jenny's gum color, capillary refill time, and take her temperature. I do think you need to call your veterinarian now.
No, the currently available sedatives (Acepromazine, Xylazine, Romifidine, and Detomidine) do not have any effect on pregnancy and fetal development. So don't worry. On the other hand I would be ideal if you trained your donkey to allow hoof trimming without sedation. All donkeys can be trained to do this, with patience and carrots. It is safer, cheaper, and better for the donkey.
Assuming the pregnant jennet is otherwise healthy and has good teeth, a lot of special feed is not really necessary. Good quality grass hay (alfalfa is not necessary and can make donkeys excessively fat pretty quickly), a trace element supplement (we use California Trace, though there are lots of others), and maybe a highly digestible pellet, to add some protein, would be sufficient. An example would be Equine Senior, at half the horse dose. Again, a lot of starches and sugars (grain and molasses) is just going to make the jennet fat, and maybe cause laminitis. They just don't need that.
Yes, the fetus moves around in the abdomen before foaling. The "bumps" can also be affected by the amount of feed in the colon, especially in a jennet that has had several foals and whose abdominal wall has been stretched as a result. There are more accurate ways to predict foaling, such as udder confirmation, waxing, milk dripping, and "softening" of the muscles at the base of the tail.
The basic answer is "yes you can feel a donkey foal move in the jennet's abdomen". However, when depends on a lot of things, including the size of the jennet and the conformation of her body wall. Some have a more pendulous abdominal conformation than others and a thinner body wall, with less abdominal fat. So it would be very hard to age a fetus by feeling it through the body wall. Depending on the breed and size, I would think that a fetus would need to be at least 6 months of gestation before motion could be felt in any donkey, and probably more like 9 months plus in most cases. Transcutaneous ultrasound, looking at cardiac and cranial size would be a much more accurate way to age a fetus.
Yes they can be wormed
do not know where you are located, but your jennet needs veterinary attention. I cannot imagine a veterinarian not helping you. If the entire placenta passed I would worry about a uterine intussceseption, where the uterus folds back on itself kind of like you would with a pair of socks. While it is possible for this to resolve on its own, veterinary intervention is almost always required. At the very least this jennet needs analgesics because the condition is painful. Of course there could also be other problems and a variety of post birth complications. Can you take her temperature (insert a regular thermometer in the rectum for a short period of time)? Can you try another veterinary practice or taking her to a veterinary hospital that deals with horses? How is the foal doing? ~~ Dr. Davis
would also be concerned with such a high temperature that part of the placenta did not pass. Ideally, a uterine lavage to attempt to flush the uterus.
Considering her behavior- the possibility of a twin with the colic like behavior which is similar to parturition behavior. Dystocia and twinning are common in mini donkeys.
To increase milk production it’s possible to administer Domperidone under the guidance of a veterinarian. ~~ Amy
I am assuming the colt was a year old or more when he was castrated, making it possible to impregnate this jennet. If that is the case there are several things. First, I would not worry about sedation from the standpoint of the pregnancy. Available sedatives and even anesthetics do not cause either birth defects or induce labor. So if you are going to have to sedate to trim feet, it might be a good time have your veterinarian take a blood sample (which can be used to diagnose pregnancy) or do an ultrasound through the skin in the flank, which will allow pregnancy diagnoses after about 100 days gestation). i would also like to encourage you to work with this jennet to try to get her to overcome her fears and stress by slow patient, but persistent, training. I know this can be a serious time commitment, as my wife specializes in gentling with feral donkeys. She is out there with them every day and the really wild ones require months of contact just to get to where they can be haltered and handled. It takes patience and a lot of carrot pieces. While you may not plan on taking her anywhere, or hiking with her, It is MUCH less stressful for routine procedures like hoof trimming and vaccinations if donkeys are trained. Further, in emergencies (injuries, colic, foaling problems, etc OR in the case of evacuation for a natural disaster which is, unfortunately becoming common here in California.....) a donkeys long life will be much better if it is trained.
Separation from the rest of the herd depends on the personalities of the animals involved. It is possible that a jennet who is low on the 'pecking order' with aggressive individuals in the herd may benefit from being fenced off, allowing her to give birth and start raising her foal by herself. In general, however, this is not necessary. Donkeys don't like to be without their herd mates. So keeping them together will be the best in most cases.
The average is 12 months, but they have been known to go as early as 11 months and as late as 14 months.